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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 03:09

Zahid( for Aussies who saw him in Jan 97),Imran, Waqar, Thomo, Lee, Akram, Shoaib, M Sami, Holding, D Malcom, Ngam,Bishop, Donald


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Post by Red Tue 10 Feb 2009, 03:21

Thommo's the fastest I've seen. I think Patterson may have actually been the quickest West Indian.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 03:25

ah thats right....i forgot about him

Lilllee was fairly sharp too
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Post by embee Tue 10 Feb 2009, 05:10

Don't know how Thommo went on Speed ....but he was farquen deadly on a rum hangover
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Post by JGK Tue 10 Feb 2009, 06:30

Shoaib was pretty fast on roids.

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Post by JKLever Tue 10 Feb 2009, 10:24

Adrian Van Troost was quicker than the lot of them.

Hence why speed doesn't mean everything.
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Post by skully Tue 10 Feb 2009, 10:41

Thommo sh!ts on them all.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:22

Shoaib of 1998-1999 to 2003 was a sight to behold...no doubt about it.

Zahid was probably more talented bowler though
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Post by Guest Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:24

It's hard to imagine anyone faster than Thomo. Holding looked like he was at times but it's hard to tell.

Truth is there isn't much between any of them when you really look at it. There is only so fast one can go.

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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:27

Sans Souci wrote:It's hard to imagine anyone faster than Thomo. Holding looked like he was at times but it's hard to tell.

Truth is there isn't much between any of them when you really look at it. There is only so fast one can go.
perhaps but Shoaib himself said that Zahid was a yard quicker than him...thats quite a bit

HOW EVER when Zahid was at his fastest Shoaib was "only" 95-96 mph bowler and slowly built his pace up to 99-100 by 2002-03.
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Post by doctorspin Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:49

Looked at the thread title and IMMIDIATELY KNEW this was a PP authored thread 🐰

The man is OBSESSED I tells ya
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Post by PeterCS Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:52

skully wrote:Thommo sh!ts on them all.

Why doesn't he fight fair?
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Post by spangler Tue 10 Feb 2009, 17:21

Za - who?
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Post by doctorspin Tue 10 Feb 2009, 17:25

It is a difficult thing is this speed.

Firstly, the method of measurement in Thommo's day was different to the spped-gun of Shoaib's. Both are/were right up there at the limit of possibility i.e. around 100mph.

Dunno about Zahid, never saw him for some reason new kids and no Sky probably.

The other thing is speed at what point of the delivery?

Depending ion the height of release, there will be differential absorption of energy by the pitch, so a tall bowler's delivery will lose more speed on pitching than a skiddy,kiss the surface Malcolm Marshall.

Of course in the end a couple of MPH between "friends" is neither here nor there, anything over 90, if combined with consistency is near deadly and if combined with control and movement is essentially deadly more often than not.

Also, there is the issue of whether a bowler who has touched 100MPH once, but generally bowls at 90 is faster than say a Holding, Marshall or Patterson who would consistently, repetitively ad nauseum bowl around 95 (with total control)
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Post by PeterCS Tue 10 Feb 2009, 17:26

Speed without control is nothing but intimidation (or farce).
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Post by Basil Tue 10 Feb 2009, 18:10

Thomo
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 23:21

Interesting replies so far....

Thomo must have been SERIOUSLY fast
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 23:21

spangler wrote:Za - who?
hid
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 10 Feb 2009, 23:22

doctorspin wrote:It is a difficult thing is this speed.

Firstly, the method of measurement in Thommo's day was different to the spped-gun of Shoaib's. Both are/were right up there at the limit of possibility i.e. around 100mph.

Dunno about Zahid, never saw him for some reason new kids and no Sky probably.

The other thing is speed at what point of the delivery?

Depending ion the height of release, there will be differential absorption of energy by the pitch, so a tall bowler's delivery will lose more speed on pitching than a skiddy,kiss the surface Malcolm Marshall.

Of course in the end a couple of MPH between "friends" is neither here nor there, anything over 90, if combined with consistency is near deadly and if combined with control and movement is essentially deadly more often than not.

Also, there is the issue of whether a bowler who has touched 100MPH once, but generally bowls at 90 is faster than say a Holding, Marshall or Patterson who would consistently, repetitively ad nauseum bowl around 95 (with total control)
Will post a video when i get home

Its from 1998/99
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 11 Feb 2009, 02:20

Some random Zahid clips

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Post by doctorspin Wed 11 Feb 2009, 03:21

Thanks PP. Difficult to get a true sense from those size clips, but clearly a bit rapid.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 11 Feb 2009, 03:44

doctorspin wrote:Thanks PP. Difficult to get a true sense from those size clips, but clearly a bit rapid.
you are welcome

yeah he was quite sharp. In one of the Carlton and united series games in AUS he bowled an amazing over to Lara where for the first 5 balls he was beaten for sheer speed and eventually nicked the 6th one to the keeper.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 11 Feb 2009, 03:48

I hate this one
even in 1998 the rules were so shamelessly in favor of the batsmen.

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