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Rank the following based on SPEED
Zahid( for Aussies who saw him in Jan 97),Imran, Waqar, Thomo, Lee, Akram, Shoaib, M Sami, Holding, D Malcom, Ngam,Bishop, Donald
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Thommo's the fastest I've seen. I think Patterson may have actually been the quickest West Indian.
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ah thats right....i forgot about him
Lilllee was fairly sharp too
Lilllee was fairly sharp too
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Don't know how Thommo went on Speed ....but he was farquen deadly on a rum hangover
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Shoaib was pretty fast on roids.
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Adrian Van Troost was quicker than the lot of them.
Hence why speed doesn't mean everything.
Hence why speed doesn't mean everything.
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Thommo sh!ts on them all.
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Shoaib of 1998-1999 to 2003 was a sight to behold...no doubt about it.
Zahid was probably more talented bowler though
Zahid was probably more talented bowler though
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It's hard to imagine anyone faster than Thomo. Holding looked like he was at times but it's hard to tell.
Truth is there isn't much between any of them when you really look at it. There is only so fast one can go.
Truth is there isn't much between any of them when you really look at it. There is only so fast one can go.
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perhaps but Shoaib himself said that Zahid was a yard quicker than him...thats quite a bitSans Souci wrote:It's hard to imagine anyone faster than Thomo. Holding looked like he was at times but it's hard to tell.
Truth is there isn't much between any of them when you really look at it. There is only so fast one can go.
HOW EVER when Zahid was at his fastest Shoaib was "only" 95-96 mph bowler and slowly built his pace up to 99-100 by 2002-03.
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Looked at the thread title and IMMIDIATELY KNEW this was a PP authored thread
The man is OBSESSED I tells ya
The man is OBSESSED I tells ya
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skully wrote:Thommo sh!ts on them all.
Why doesn't he fight fair?
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It is a difficult thing is this speed.
Firstly, the method of measurement in Thommo's day was different to the spped-gun of Shoaib's. Both are/were right up there at the limit of possibility i.e. around 100mph.
Dunno about Zahid, never saw him for some reason new kids and no Sky probably.
The other thing is speed at what point of the delivery?
Depending ion the height of release, there will be differential absorption of energy by the pitch, so a tall bowler's delivery will lose more speed on pitching than a skiddy,kiss the surface Malcolm Marshall.
Of course in the end a couple of MPH between "friends" is neither here nor there, anything over 90, if combined with consistency is near deadly and if combined with control and movement is essentially deadly more often than not.
Also, there is the issue of whether a bowler who has touched 100MPH once, but generally bowls at 90 is faster than say a Holding, Marshall or Patterson who would consistently, repetitively ad nauseum bowl around 95 (with total control)
Firstly, the method of measurement in Thommo's day was different to the spped-gun of Shoaib's. Both are/were right up there at the limit of possibility i.e. around 100mph.
Dunno about Zahid, never saw him for some reason new kids and no Sky probably.
The other thing is speed at what point of the delivery?
Depending ion the height of release, there will be differential absorption of energy by the pitch, so a tall bowler's delivery will lose more speed on pitching than a skiddy,kiss the surface Malcolm Marshall.
Of course in the end a couple of MPH between "friends" is neither here nor there, anything over 90, if combined with consistency is near deadly and if combined with control and movement is essentially deadly more often than not.
Also, there is the issue of whether a bowler who has touched 100MPH once, but generally bowls at 90 is faster than say a Holding, Marshall or Patterson who would consistently, repetitively ad nauseum bowl around 95 (with total control)
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Speed without control is nothing but intimidation (or farce).
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Interesting replies so far....
Thomo must have been SERIOUSLY fast
Thomo must have been SERIOUSLY fast
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hidspangler wrote:Za - who?
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Will post a video when i get homedoctorspin wrote:It is a difficult thing is this speed.
Firstly, the method of measurement in Thommo's day was different to the spped-gun of Shoaib's. Both are/were right up there at the limit of possibility i.e. around 100mph.
Dunno about Zahid, never saw him for some reason new kids and no Sky probably.
The other thing is speed at what point of the delivery?
Depending ion the height of release, there will be differential absorption of energy by the pitch, so a tall bowler's delivery will lose more speed on pitching than a skiddy,kiss the surface Malcolm Marshall.
Of course in the end a couple of MPH between "friends" is neither here nor there, anything over 90, if combined with consistency is near deadly and if combined with control and movement is essentially deadly more often than not.
Also, there is the issue of whether a bowler who has touched 100MPH once, but generally bowls at 90 is faster than say a Holding, Marshall or Patterson who would consistently, repetitively ad nauseum bowl around 95 (with total control)
Its from 1998/99
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Some random Zahid clips
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Thanks PP. Difficult to get a true sense from those size clips, but clearly a bit rapid.
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you are welcomedoctorspin wrote:Thanks PP. Difficult to get a true sense from those size clips, but clearly a bit rapid.
yeah he was quite sharp. In one of the Carlton and united series games in AUS he bowled an amazing over to Lara where for the first 5 balls he was beaten for sheer speed and eventually nicked the 6th one to the keeper.
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I hate this one
even in 1998 the rules were so shamelessly in favor of the batsmen.
even in 1998 the rules were so shamelessly in favor of the batsmen.
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