Interesting stats on England's middle order

Here

England team has a middle order???

the only surprise there is that its better than the snoozers. i guess thorpe and kp dragged them above

they do have a good number of 100s though. probably means the batsmen dont kick on after a hundred and seem satisfied with what they have done

Wasn't Vaughan batting at number 3 in ther for sometime?

John Crawley? Really?

Batman wrote:Wasn't Vaughan batting at number 3 in ther for sometime?

Michael Vaughan had a couple of outstanding series as batsman, but over the course of his career he failed to do justice to his potential.

Did you bother reading the article?

Are these stats in any way a surprise?

Batman wrote:England team has a middle order???

Yeah I think it's called their tail.

The two other batsmen who've averaged more than 40 during this period are Mark Butcher and Ian Bell.

taipan wrote:

Batman wrote:Wasn't Vaughan batting at number 3 in ther for sometime?

Michael Vaughan had a couple of outstanding series as batsman, but over the course of his career he failed to do justice to his potential.

Did you bother reading the article?

A tad touchy today aren't we?

It's weird how all of a sudden everyone's on the middle order's back. Everyone. Where were they before this Test? F*cking jingoists. F*cking hyperbolic tossers - them and the lot of you. I was there, 6 years ago banging on about this shit.

F*ck the lot of you. Utter qunts.

Brass Monkey wrote:It's weird how all of a sudden everyone's on the middle order's back. Everyone. Where were they before this Test? F*cking jingoists. F*cking hyperbolic tossers - them and the lot of you. I was there, 6 years ago banging on about this shit.

F*ck the lot of you. Utter qunts.

Ah, but we always had KP and Colly to rescue us. Now we're in the brown and nasty, missing one with the other looking like he's batting with a broom handle.

Brass Monkey wrote:It's weird how all of a sudden everyone's on the middle order's back. Everyone. Where were they before this Test? F*cking jingoists. F*cking hyperbolic tossers - them and the lot of you. I was there, 6 years ago banging on about this shit.

F*ck the lot of you. Utter qunts.

Danny doing a Dello impersonation

Fair do's shoey, but still, no... you're right.

It's no surprise that England's middle-order is pooh. Most other sides have 2 or 3 top class batsmen in their middle-order; Australia (Ponting and Clarke, Hussey has a good record too even if he's declining, North it's too early to say), Sri Lanka (Sangakkara and Jayawardene, Samaraweera has a good record too), South Africa (Kallis, de Villiers, Duminy it's too early to say), Pakistan (Younis and Yousuf), India have about ten class players in their middle-order.

England have 1, and now he's injured, so we have none. How do you score runs with no top-class batsmen? You don't. Collingwood, Bell and Bopara are all batting too high, they're all number 6s. Prior is probably a superior batsman to all of them talent-wise.

I've said before that I think Prior is England's second best batsman at the moment. It's good from him, but it's bloody depressing from the team perspective.

The 25 batsmen for Oz includes 7 nightwatchmen.

You would have thought they would have excluded them for a bit more accuracy

12 of England's 37 were probably night watchmen

...and two of India's 24 didn't actually bat in a Test at 3 to 6 but were in the top 6 in a did not bat list

Farque me ...who ever wrote the article was a bit lazy

Even our middle order is more effective than Englands. Oh dear.....

I guess that is entirely due to Shiv,Sarwan, Bravo and Nash as the likes of Morton and Ganga have been far worse than anything England have produced.

embee wrote:12 of England's 37 were probably night watchmen

Might actually improve the overall average!

WIFAN wrote:Even our middle order is more effective than Englands. Oh dear.....

I guess that is entirely due to Shiv,Sarwan, Bravo and Nash as the likes of Morton and Ganga have been far worse than anything England have produced.

It's from the year 2000. So I guess Lara's good run this decade helped and Shiv going crazy the last few years. I doubt that after Lara, Shiv and maybe Sarwan our middle order was better than England's

Atleast they have some decent openers.

Are you joining the Fantasy Footie league, Mak?