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Could we pick an all-SA born England side?

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Post by beamer Fri 21 Aug 2009, 20:40

Well, the batting would look pretty strong at least - Strauss, Moore, Pietersen, Trott, ?, Prior. Who could fill the last batting place, and who is there in terms of bowling? Must be England qualified or very close to becoming so.

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Post by DJ_Smerk Sat 22 Aug 2009, 01:05

Caddick could be the token Kiwi.
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Post by JGK Sat 22 Aug 2009, 16:03

Strauss
Robin Smith
Lamb
KP
Trott
Grieg
Prior
Dolly
Pringle (he's close enough)
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Post by JKLever Sat 22 Aug 2009, 16:36

Just lacking in the bowling department...
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Post by Chivalry Augustus Sat 22 Aug 2009, 16:41

Could we? I hope so. Recent evidence suggests this should be a blueprint towards future success.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 22 Aug 2009, 17:19

Lumb.
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Post by Allan D Sat 22 Aug 2009, 18:04

JGK wrote:Strauss
Robin Smith
Lamb
KP
Trott
Grieg
Prior
Dolly
Pringle (he's close enough)
10
11

You could have also included Robin's brother Chris who preceded him into the England side in the 1980s, Monty Bowden who was vc to Aubrey Smith on England's inaugural tour of SA in 1888-9 and deputised for Smith in the second match at Newlands becoming England's youngest captain at 23, stayed in SA after the tour and played for Transvaal in the inaugural Currie Cup. He went on Cecil Rhodes' expedition to Rhodesia (as it then was) 3 years later but fell off a cart and died there.

Wally Hammond also migrated to South Africa and served in the SA air force during WWII. Frank Mitchell, who also played for Transvaal, also migrated to SA after the Boer War after playing 2 Tests on Lord Hawke's tour of SA in 1898-9 and came back to England as SA captain in the 1912 Triangular Tournament.

Frank Hearne who played 2 Tests on Smith's tour in 1888-9 also stayed in SA along with Bowden (Bowden opened a stockbrokers', Hearne a sports outfitters in Cape Town) and went on to play for Western Province. In the one-off Test played at Newlands in March 1892 he played for SA whilst his brothers, Alec and George, were in the England side. His son, another George, represented SA as a wicketkeeper on the 1924 tour of England. If you're short of a pace bowler how about J.J.Ferris who, although born in Sydney, represented England at Cape Town in 1892 and died in SA of enteric fever during the Boer War (one of at least 4 England players to die in SA along with Bowden, Hearne and Hammond)?
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Post by Guest Sun 23 Aug 2009, 07:19

Phil Edmonds is Zambian, that's pretty close.

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Post by Henry Sun 23 Aug 2009, 07:34

Doesn't Beamer mean a CURRENT England side made up of South Africans? How about-

Strauss(c)
Moore
Trott
Pietersen
Lumb
Prior
Kieswetter+
Meaker
Dernbach
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Struggling with the last 2 bowlers.
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Post by embee Sun 23 Aug 2009, 10:13

Kieswetter+

Picked up the nickname "disco shoes" in WACA grade cricket last year ...and he wasn't happy about it
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Post by PeterCS Sun 23 Aug 2009, 11:55

Ant Botha?

Andy Flower??
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Post by Allan D Sun 23 Aug 2009, 12:28

Neal Radford is also Zambian-born (or Northern Rhodesia as then was) and played for Transvaal for a decade, overlapping his Test career.
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Post by Yorkie Jill Sun 23 Aug 2009, 20:27

Just wait til Kieswetter qualifies and they pick him to keep with Prior playing as specialist bat. Possible Saffer 5 out of top 6.
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Post by Winkle Spinner Sun 23 Aug 2009, 23:15

Ben Hutton?
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Post by JKLever Sun 23 Aug 2009, 23:36

Nick Compton.
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