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Post by skully Mon 21 Jun 2010, 14:42

Erm, I think you have misconstrued, Wally. I was referring to interplay between me (the Blue) and JGK (the Red) in the previous posts in this thread.

I have not attempted to make comment on your and Zat's exchange other than in another thread where I expressed surprise that he was able to actually wind you up.

I think you need to calm down ol' bean, and actually read what is posted rather than wade in with preconceived notions about those nasty Blues. Peace, brother. Cool
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Post by WideWally Mon 21 Jun 2010, 14:55

skully wrote:Erm, I think you have misconstrued, Wally. I was referring to interplay between me (the Blue) and JGK (the Red) in the previous posts in this thread.

I have not attempted to make comment on your and Zat's exchange other than in another thread where I expressed surprise that he was able to actually wind you up.

I think you need to calm down ol' bean, and actually read what is posted rather than wade in with preconceived notions about those nasty Blues. Peace, brother. Cool

How did you reach that conclusion?

I'm totally calm, skully. I don't know why you have now claimed in a number posts that I am not. Very strange comments & totally unfounded.

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Post by skully Mon 21 Jun 2010, 15:02

Wally, I'm telling you, prior to you arriving, all posts were in reference to JGK's ramblings (he is a pinko Banjo at heart, you know). If you want to make them about you, then be my guest. But if you do, you are merely making yourself a very unlikely attention whore.

Calm down mate. I've never had an issue with you and I haven't attempted to start one here, so what is up your @rse, ol' bean??

I noted you getting hot under the collar at Zat yesterday but did not interject. It's you and him, mate. Twisted Evil

In your previous response you referred to responses from Zat ("my good friend"), and I had made no reference to them. It was purely an exchange between me and JGK.
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Post by WideWally Mon 21 Jun 2010, 15:27

If you noted me "getting hot under the collar yesterday", then you are an extremely poor judge of a person's state of mind. I calmly pointed out the inaccuracies in Zat's arguments & as he was unable to justify his position, he unleashed a barrage of childish insults. I now realise that you were referring to him when you mentioned "meltdown" last night.

I also thought that I had calmly resolved the situation by telling Zat I would no longer be replying to his posts & would put him on ignore. I thought he was going to do the same but judging by the post made by JGK at 7.51pm quoting Zat, it appears that he won't let go. It was that post that made me think you were referring to me.

As I said, the matter is finished as far as I am concerned & I have him on ignore.

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Post by Hass Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:06

Skully thought I was being uncharacteristically hysterical when I was criticising Channel 7 over the David Campbell outing.

I was probably a bit more peeved than normal, but sometimes it's hard to read a person's state of mind over the internet.

Such is the nature of forumming.

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Post by Zat Mon 21 Jun 2010, 22:35

WideWally wrote: I calmly pointed out the inaccuracies in Zat's arguments & as he was unable to justify his position, he unleashed a barrage of childish insults
Not that Wally will ever notice this because he 'has me on ignore', there's two sides to every story.

Who was the first to stoop to an insult in that exchange? It was not me who said something about being more irrelevant than usual. That was the first insult, you more than held your own from there.

As for being unable to justify my position? It's your opinion that league is the greatest game of all, and its mine that it isn't. I accept that to you it's very important. But as you don't seem to be able to accept someone else's opinion may be valid, I was merely having a bit of fun poking you with a stick, and you kept responding.

As was once said to me, if you have to take the forum that seriously, then you have a problem.

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Post by skully Mon 21 Jun 2010, 23:32

What's that Zat, I have you on ignore like taccy. slide

I assume Wally does too but can't tell because I have him on ignore. Cool
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Post by Zat Mon 21 Jun 2010, 23:39

Shut up skully, I'm ignoring you.

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Post by Zat Mon 21 Jun 2010, 23:39

Shut up skully, I'm ignoring you.

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Post by skully Mon 21 Jun 2010, 23:43

I'm honoured. Ignored twice by an Emporer in a minute.
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Post by Zat Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:00

What?

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Post by Hass Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:07

I think this thread could do with a song:



I never get tired of hearing it.

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Post by Zat Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:09

Well played Hass.

Even though it's wrong.

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Post by Mick Sawyer Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:10

embee wrote:
JGK wrote:The funniest thing is that I think Malcolm would probably win an election if he was still the leader.

If he was still leader we would have ETS legislation passed...and Rudd would look like a leader who had actually achieved a few things

aye! Ain't life funny.
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Post by skully Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:17

snigger @ Hass. Prolly should have been Wally's response. Very Happy
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Post by bodyline Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:29

JGK wrote:32 people died in the building of the Harbour Bridge. 3 Diggers were killed in Afghanistan today. Bad things can happen when you try to acheive good.

At least now we know that there was a highly dodgy industry in our midst and we can do something about it. On the clear plus side, hundreds of thousands of houses now have insulation with all the attendant benefits.

That is a diabolical comment . The whole scheme was a stuff up - and has been attributed to over 170 house fires.

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Post by bodyline Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:33

Paul Keating wrote:
skully wrote:I wonder if Ponts has already got his Tony Abbott voodoo doll sorted?

LOL

Not at all, Skully, I personally am loving the hysteria from the Libs. It is desperation stakes.

No way will the Libs be voted in later this year. Not a chance in hell.

You should start talking to people in the party at the admin level - they aren't anywhere near as confident as you.

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Post by Mick Sawyer Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:34

The whole scheme was a stuff up

aye, it was. Yet another reason why the country should be run by a board with staff that are truly accountable.
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Post by skully Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:39

bodyline wrote:
JGK wrote:32 people died in the building of the Harbour Bridge. 3 Diggers were killed in Afghanistan today. Bad things can happen when you try to acheive good.

At least now we know that there was a highly dodgy industry in our midst and we can do something about it. On the clear plus side, hundreds of thousands of houses now have insulation with all the attendant benefits.

That is a diabolical comment . The whole scheme was a stuff up - and has been attributed to over 170 house fires.
I did have to read it several times to make sure JGK wasn't making it tongue in cheek.

Methinks in the cool light of day he'll look back and go "D'oh - what the fark was I thinking posting that?". A classic example of the 10 seconds of pondering rule prior to sending a post. Cool
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Post by skully Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:40

Mick Sawyer wrote:
The whole scheme was a stuff up

aye, it was. Yet another reason why the country should be run by a board with staff that are truly accountable.
Are you starting a petition, Mick. Where do I sign? Cool
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Post by horace Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:41

which malcolm - fraser or turnbull?
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Post by skully Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:42

horace wrote:which malcolm - fraser or turnbull?
Oh look, a completely random, out-of-context post by h. Very Happy
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Post by bodyline Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:42

Book the removalists!


SUPPORT for Labor has crashed so far in marginal seats in Queensland and western Sydney that the government would lose an election now.

Seats Labor won in 2007 in regional Queensland and outer Sydney, which effectively delivered its victory, are showing swings against the ALP of between 6 per cent and 12 per cent and voters have turned against the Prime Minister.

In Labor-held seats where the Greens' vote is low, support is dramatically shifting from sitting Labor MPs to the Coalition, removing hopes of Labor surviving on preferences and boosting Tony Abbott as the prospective prime minister.

Most voters are dissatisfied with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister in the five seats polled by The Australian, with a high of 61 per cent in western Sydney seat of Lindsay where the Opposition Leader is ahead as the preferred prime minister.

Julia Gillard is the preferred Labor leader in Lindsay, although Mr Rudd is ahead as preferred prime minister and Labor leader in the three marginal seats polled in his home state of Queensland.

As the NSW state Labor government reels from the weekend loss of the western Sydney seat of Penrith after a swing of 25 per cent, the key federal seat of Lindsay, which the Liberals won from Labor in 1996 and lost in 2007 and which incorporates much of Penrith, has suffered a 12 per cent swing against it on a two-party-preferred basis.

According to a special Newspoll survey of three marginal Labor-held seats in Queensland and two Labor-held marginals in NSW, Labor could lose 10 Queensland seats held by margins of less than 6 per cent and at least four or five seats in NSW. Senior Labor MPs fear the dispute with the mining industry over the resources super-profits tax, community concerns about illegal boat arrivals and disenchantment with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister mean the ALP will lose the election.

The Newspoll survey, covering the Labor seats of Dawson, Flynn and Longman in Queensland and the NSW seats of Lindsay, in Sydney's west, and Page, on the north coast, shows Labor's primary vote is even lower in some marginals than the 35 per cent it was in the national Newspoll survey taken last weekend. The NSW seat of Page is Labor's only bright spot in the marginal seat survey because the ALP primary vote is level with the Coalition on 38 per cent but is pushed to a two-party-preferred figure of 55 per cent to the Coalition's 45 per cent because of Greens' preferences.

In the three Queensland marginal seats, the ALP's primary vote is 34 per cent compared with the Coalition's 45 per cent, giving the Coalition an election-winning two-party-preferred lead of eight points there, 54 to 46 per cent.

At the 2007 election, Labor's two-party-preferred vote in the three Queensland marginal seats was 52.1 per cent compared with the Coalition's 47.9 per cent.

In Lindsay, which includes the state seat of Penrith, Labor's primary vote is 34 per cent, compared with 51.4 per cent at the 2007 election. Labor's two-party-preferred vote is down from 56 per cent at the election to 44 per cent.

The Coalition's support has reversed, going from a primary vote of 38 per cent and a two-party-preferred vote of 43.6 per cent at the 2007 election to 44 per cent and 56 per cent respectively.

In Page, where the Greens' primary vote has jumped from 8 per cent at the election to 14 per cent last weekend, the Labor Party is even with the Coalition's primary vote of 38 per cent and ahead on the two-party preferred vote 55 to 45 per cent.

There is more dissatisfaction with Mr Rudd than satisfaction in every marginal seat surveyed, with dissatisfaction at 61 per cent in Lindsay compared with satisfaction of 33 per cent.

In the Queensland marginals, satisfaction is just 30 per cent and dissatisfaction is 59 per cent. In Page, satisfaction with Mr Rudd is at 36 per cent and dissatisfaction is at 55 per cent.

In Lindsay Mr Abbott is preferred Prime Minister at 44 per cent to Mr Rudd's 40 per cent and the Deputy Prime Minister is preferred Labor leader by 45 per cent to Mr Rudd's 36 per cent.

In Queensland Mr Rudd is six points ahead of Mr Abbott as preferred Prime Minister, 45 to 39 per cent, and in front of Ms Gillard as preferred Labor leader 48 to 34 per cent. In Page, Mr Rudd is up six points on Ms Gillard and 16 points over Mr Abbott.

Compared with the national Newspoll survey taken last weekend, in which Labor had a two-party-preferred lead over the Coalition of 52 to 48 per cent because of the 15 per cent primary vote for the Greens, the marginal polling in Queensland and western Sydney is much worse for Labor.

Yesterday, Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young indicated it would be a mistake for the government to assume Greens preferences would flow to Labor with the same generosity as at the last election, when 80 per cent of Greens preferences went to Labor.

She said some recent polling put the ratio at 60:40. "Who (voters) put as their second preference, that's totally up to them. And I wouldn't be surprised if the distribution changes at this next poll."

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Post by G.Wood Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:43

Knowing our luck the board would be modeled on the BCCI
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Post by skully Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:45

With Modi as the CEO. Shocked
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