70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain

Clamson wrote:So was the original memorial in London for whites only? Does there have to be one specifically for non-whites?

dunno. the brits seem to think so

http://www.aftermathww1.com/memgatestrust.asp

Sometimes I think things like this promote a bit of an "us and them" attitude.

It is a trifle odd that one or two forummers have a bit of difficulty with references to quotes from various speeches of Churchill referring to the defence of Christianity during the Battle of Britain.

Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about what Nazism stood for would recognise that Hitler was at war with every race, creed and religion who stood in his way. Irrespective of what Churchill may have said, the victory gained by the RAF was a victory for freethinking people the world over whatever their religious convictions.

The One wrote:i only voiced my opinion on seeing the words of churchill. in his words this was the battle to save christian civilisation but referring to the same battle he says the survival of the world depended on it and also that the world depends on britain. i am all for brits celebrating her men and women for saving their island, but i find it offensive that somehow our part of the world owes anything to it

i think its kind of summed up in growler's first post itself. he mentions the various aussies, kiwis and saffies killed in the battle of britain but fails to mention (or probably does not even know) that 8 indian pilots were killed as well. they didnt even have a memorial in london for non-white soldiers killed in world war II till 2002. it was your war and i am more than happy for you to celebrate your victory. just dont drag the rest of us in or expect us to express our gratitude

I'm sorry you're not getting off so easily. First off - nobody said your part of the world owes anything to Britain or the British.

secondly, I'll quote parts of my own post which so offended you ......

A special mention should be made of our then colonies who, although it was not their war, nevertheless sent many of their finest young men to fight for the "mother country

[b]Later of course, many times more would be killed serving in Bomber Command, but the politicians then (as now) sent better men to fight & die, then deny all reponsibility for their actions.

Now, tell me which bit of "our then colonies" are you having difficulty understanding? You seem to think I wrote "all our then white, English speaking colonies".

Thirdly, I did quote numbers of Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans killed in the B of B. I didn't ignore any Indian pilots. Some may have been killed for us, but not in this particular conflict as far as I can tell.

Maybe you can point me to thier names, squadrons and dates of death, as this Roll of Honour doesn't list any Indian nationals as even taking part in this battle, let alone losing their lives...... or are you going to again accuse horrid whitey of ignoring the sacrifices made by coloured warriors, whether from Asia or Africa.

Allan paid full and rightly deserved recognition to Indias contribution to the war, with which I for one fully agree.

Such a shame you lack the grace to even acknowledge such a small point. Every post you make on the subject shows you to be a sad, bitter and twisted person bearing a grudge over actions carried out by people long dead, to others equally long dead.

You can't change it, so deal with it. My original point stands. Take the chip off your shoulder and move on. Alternatively, bugger off and take your poison elsewhere ...... some of us are sick of seeing it.

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Fully concur with Growls' summation of TO.

A bigoted little qunt who chose the wrong thread to air his myopic bigoted views.

Sure he's entitled to his opinions - but elsewhere - not on a thread relating to those who gave their lives so that we may live ours freely.... especially if, as I'm sure is the case for most on here, those dead included loved ones of families and relations of those posting on this board and on this thread.

And then a little qunt appears with his bile ... perhaps trolling who knows, but certainly inflamatory to the point of insult.

So, for what it's worth, get the f**k off this thread TO and start a new one if you wish to continue to air your grievances ... just avoid further sullying this one.

Were not the brave men of the RAF fighting for TO's right to air his opinion on whatever thread he pleases?

JKLever wrote:Let's face it TO has piccies of Adolf on his bedroom wall, he hates the fact his beloved Deutsch were beaten.

TO also has a flag hanging out the front of his house.

TO - the poor man's Buckaroo.

TO's a very good forummer in my opinion and the
kind of rhetoric above is the reason why this
forum has no posters.

Perhaps he has some views you don't agree with but there's no need for this kind of speak is there? I don't think anyone, once they take a minute to think about it, thinks that TO hates white people or is a Nazi or a bigot or indeed, that pathetic, overused word "a qunt"..

Perhaps the worst thing you could say about him is that he is stubborn in his views and has a chip on his shoulder but comparing him to buckaroo - steady on.

spangler wrote:Were not the brave men of the RAF fighting for TO's right to air his opinion on whatever thread he pleases?

Indeed he has. We also have the right to challenge it.

This is the point spangler ...... the thread was started as a tribute to a few hundred war heroes. You should ask yourself TO's motivation, as an Indian, to express an opinion (thanking Gods he doesn't actually believe in) expressing pleasure at the demise of Empire, which had absolutely nothing to do with the subject in hand. TO doesn't even acknowlege that, as a result of those men making the ultimate sacrifice , he wouldn't be in a position to hold views of any kind.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:TO's a very good forummer in my opinion and the
kind of rhetoric above is the reason why this
forum has no posters.

Perhaps he has some views you don't agree with but there's no need for this kind of speak is there? I don't think anyone, once they take a minute to think about it, thinks that TO hates white people or is a Nazi or a bigot or indeed, that pathetic, overused word "a qunt"..

Perhaps the worst thing you could say about him is that he is stubborn in his views and has a chip on his shoulder but comparing him to buckaroo - steady on.

TO is a good forummer, but is blatently a tad anti-British and soooooo has a copy of Mein Kampf in his bookshelf

I don't think he's about to mince off because of a little debate either.

And isn't it time you went for a poo, LLL?

I'd agree this isn't really the thread for discussing the Empire - could always start a glory of the British Empire thread. I'm sure Merls would get all teary...

How will the Commonwealth Games go this year? And which of the oppressed, British-hating, never-to-recover minions is hosting them? I can't recall which country had to have a gun held to its head to host them...

I find myself agreeing with Spangler. Everybody has the right to express an honest opinion - except Tac

Lever - I don't think he'll leave either but just because he's thick skinned and stable enough to take that kind of bile doesn't mean everyone is. I was just pointing out that this kind of situation is what has lost members. Your post was fine, suggesting he's anti-British and clearly joking about Hitler but seriously calling someone a Nazi/bigot/qunt for expressing their views goes against what a forum's about IMO anyway.

Zat - had a beauty today. Girth, weight, length, smell. Also did a poo.

Zat wrote:How will the Commonwealth Games go this year? And which of the oppressed, British-hating, never-to-recover minions is hosting them? I can't recall which country had to have a gun held to its head to host them...

It's in Delhi (from 3-14 October) - Going to be a revenge for the Mutiny and Bengal Famine Special - new events will include firing the British competitor from the cannon and hunt the rice granule.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Lever - I don't think he'll leave either but just because he's thick skinned and stable enough to take that kind of bile doesn't mean everyone is. I was just pointing out that this kind of situation is what has lost members. Your post was fine, suggesting he's anti-British and clearly joking about Hitler but seriously calling someone a Nazi/bigot/qunt for expressing their views goes against what a forum's about IMO anyway.

Blimey Laura you're turning into a Guardian reading wet...

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:TO's a very good forummer in my opinion and the
kind of rhetoric above is the reason why this
forum has no posters.

Perhaps he has some views you don't agree with but there's no need for this kind of speak is there? I don't think anyone, once they take a minute to think about it, thinks that TO hates white people or is a Nazi or a bigot or indeed, that pathetic, overused word "a qunt"..

Perhaps the worst thing you could say about him is that he is stubborn in his views and has a chip on his shoulder but comparing him to buckaroo - steady on.

Lara, I've no argument with anyone on the subject of cricket, and that includes TO. I'll agree to disagree as I've done with you amongst others - but I've never been offensive on a personal level, and I don't think my postings would cause newcomers to leave.

I certainly don't think TO is a Nazi, and have never even intimated at it ....... and while I don't think he necessarily hates white people, he certainly comes over as having little time for them - and I do think he's somewhat bigoted in his views. I don't mind someone being stubborn ... it's absolute intolerance I can't bide.

Finally, I didn't compare TO to buckaroo - that bloke's a complete whack-job ....... it was his kid sister, who's not nearly as bad.

Growler wrote:can point me to thier names, squadrons and dates of death, as this [color=red]Roll of Honour doesn't list any Indian nationals as even taking part in this battle, let alone losing their lives...... or are you going to again accuse horrid whitey of ignoring the sacrifices made by coloured warriors, whether from Asia or Africa.

http://www.battleofbritainbeacon.org/pilots/pilots.cfm

JKLever wrote:TO is a good forummer, but is blatently a tad anti-British and soooooo has a copy of Mein Kampf in his bookshelf

anti-empire

or an anti-merlin. which can only be good

i have lived in britain and loved it

TO revelling in the abuse . . . plays right into the subi culture of playing the victim . . .

tac in 'might as well take a cheap shot as well' shocker

Sorry, TO, was that too close to the truth for your liking? Silly me . . ..