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Post by Red Sat 06 Nov 2010, 12:56

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/cricket/ntini-betrayed-me-arthur-1.722631

It's been a big week for cricket books released in SA. Gibbs' book sold out within two days. Arthur's comments may prove just as controversial.

What will be next?
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Post by taipan Sat 06 Nov 2010, 13:29

Red wrote: Gibbs' book sold out within two days.

Really? I sometimes wonder where you get your info from. I bought my copy on Monday and know for a fact Hilda bought her copy on Friday morning. Either the printers are superquick in this part of the world or you must stop beieving everything you read in the media.
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Post by Red Sat 06 Nov 2010, 13:35

taipan wrote:
Red wrote: Gibbs' book sold out within two days.

Really? I sometimes wonder where you get your info from. I bought my copy on Monday and know for a fact Hilda bought her copy on Friday morning. Either the printers are superquick in this part of the world or you must stop beieving everything you read in the media.

From the link I posted.

Meanwhile, Gibbs’s biography has sold out in less than two days, this week the bad news is that he could still face legal action after CSA announced that it had instructed its lawyers to scrutinise the book.

Maybe some were pre-ordered. Smile
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Post by taipan Sat 06 Nov 2010, 13:39

Red wrote:
Maybe some were pre-ordered. Smile

FFS, Hilda texted me after buying the book in a local bookstore. If you like I can get her to post to that effect.

I have warned you before about your blind faith in the media.
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Post by Red Sat 06 Nov 2010, 13:48

Haven't got blind faith but if it's sold out now, it's sold out pretty quickly so there must be a lot of gullible people in SA. Two days, four days - doesn't really matter. Gibbs has made his rands.
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Post by taipan Sat 06 Nov 2010, 13:53

Red wrote:Haven't got blind faith but if it's sold out now, it's sold out pretty quickly so there must be a lot of gullible people in SA. Two days, four days - doesn't really matter. Gibbs has made his rands.

Gullible people? Because we bought a book on cricket?

You have been avidly reading all the extracts you can find on the net and posting them here. What does that make you? Either a voyeur or someone who is chronically mean?
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Post by PeterCS Sat 06 Nov 2010, 13:55

FFS Mickey Mouse Arthur.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sat 06 Nov 2010, 14:38

this guy is a jackarse and will(should) be sued soon by PCB for this

"There was a strong suspicion of match-fixing and it took some of the gloss off the series win," Arthur had told the South African website Sport24, ahead of the publication of his autobiography, in which the same claim is set to be made. "We did not have any proof, but when you have been involved in the game long enough, you know when something is not right. How else do you explain a batting side needing only 40 runs with seven [sic] wickets in hand, and then losing?"

Thats just retarded stuff from Mickey.
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Post by Guest Sat 06 Nov 2010, 16:29

PlanetPakistan wrote:this guy is a jackarse and will(should) be sued soon by PCB for this

"There was a strong suspicion of match-fixing and it took some of the gloss off the series win," Arthur had told the South African website Sport24, ahead of the publication of his autobiography, in which the same claim is set to be made. "We did not have any proof, but when you have been involved in the game long enough, you know when something is not right. How else do you explain a batting side needing only 40 runs with seven [sic] wickets in hand, and then losing?"

Thats just retarded stuff from Mickey.
Right, because Pakistan as we all know are whiter than white. Get a grip.

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Post by taipan Sat 06 Nov 2010, 16:58

PlanetPakistan wrote:this guy is a jackarse and will(should) be sued soon by PCB for this

"There was a strong suspicion of match-fixing and it took some of the gloss off the series win," Arthur had told the South African website Sport24, ahead of the publication of his autobiography, in which the same claim is set to be made. "We did not have any proof, but when you have been involved in the game long enough, you know when something is not right. How else do you explain a batting side needing only 40 runs with seven [sic] wickets in hand, and then losing?"

Thats just retarded stuff from Mickey.

Yep, sue him. Pak would never be involved in match fixing.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sat 06 Nov 2010, 23:06

Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

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Post by Guest Sat 06 Nov 2010, 23:06

PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?

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Post by PlanetPakistan Sun 07 Nov 2010, 02:21

vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


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Post by Red Sun 07 Nov 2010, 02:32

PeterCS wrote:FFS Mickey Mouse Arthur.

I'm happy he's done that if it stops other players using their colour to influence selection. It's clear there's been political interference in the selection of their teams. We saw it some years back with Percy Sonn and the Rudolph saga. It's reprehensible for someone to cast aspersions upon the character of someone who's actually supported him merely for his own means.

And whatever anyone thinks of Arthur as a man or coach, it's highly doubtful that anyone who has further aspirations in terms of international coaching would fabricate such a story.

And Ntini has rightly been commended for his career this week but he shouldn't be made out to be something he isn't.
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Post by Guest Sun 07 Nov 2010, 02:35

PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


I'm officially confused, with all the match fixing allegations recently I don't what he said is such an outlandish statement to make.

Am I missing something?

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Post by embee Sun 07 Nov 2010, 02:49

vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


I'm officially confused, with all the match fixing allegations recently I don't what he said is such an outlandish statement to make.

Am I missing something?

Pakistan are capable of batting collapses ....South Africa is capable of running through a side ...South Africa would be favourites to beat Pakistan so Pakistan "losing" isnt exactly what the bookies want ...all alternatives to the possibility that Pakistan may have thrown the game
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Post by Red Sun 07 Nov 2010, 03:05

I actually remember that match. I went to bed thinking that Pakistan who had lost the test series, had salvaged something out of their hosting of SA because they were totally on the verge of making it 3-2. I was shocked to hear the scoreline on the news the next morning. From memory Albie Morkel did a lot of the damage. He's hardly a worldbeater with the ball.
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Post by Guest Sun 07 Nov 2010, 03:09

embee wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


I'm officially confused, with all the match fixing allegations recently I don't what he said is such an outlandish statement to make.

Am I missing something?

Pakistan are capable of batting collapses ....South Africa is capable of running through a side ...South Africa would be favourites to beat Pakistan so Pakistan "losing" isnt exactly what the bookies want ...all alternatives to the possibility that Pakistan may have thrown the game
I'm not saying that any of those explanations aren't plausible or even that it's more likely that match fixing was involved, but to merely mention the possibility of match fixing isn't that outrageous.

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Post by Red Sun 07 Nov 2010, 04:45

embee wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


I'm officially confused, with all the match fixing allegations recently I don't what he said is such an outlandish statement to make.

Am I missing something?

Pakistan are capable of batting collapses ....South Africa is capable of running through a side ...South Africa would be favourites to beat Pakistan so Pakistan "losing" isnt exactly what the bookies want ...all alternatives to the possibility that Pakistan may have thrown the game

It was on Pakistani soil, poised 2-2 and the home team was looking to avenge its loss in tests, so not necessarily so.
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Post by taipan Sun 07 Nov 2010, 07:05

PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.



So you are saying that it is totally beyond the realms of all possibilities that Pak could have fixed the game?
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sun 07 Nov 2010, 17:36

vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


I'm officially confused, with all the match fixing allegations recently I don't what he said is such an outlandish statement to make.

Am I missing something?
you are missing everything
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Post by Guest Sun 07 Nov 2010, 17:38

PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Taip,
What exactly is wrong with you?

you are trying to defend such moronic statements Mad

How is it moronic when it's probably true, given the recent scandal?
come on vilks you are better than this....
i don't have much time and more importantly the PATIENCE to explain something as obvious as that.


I'm officially confused, with all the match fixing allegations recently I don't what he said is such an outlandish statement to make.

Am I missing something?
you are missing everything
Right, well seeing as you have failed to explain why and keep avoiding the question that taips posted again in his last post, I'm going to assume that I'm actually not missing anything.

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Post by PlanetPakistan Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:40

vilkrang wrote:Right, well seeing as you have failed to explain why and keep avoiding the question that taips posted again in his last post, I'm going to assume that I'm actually not missing anything.

That's because Taipan(in particular) has NOT proven to me that he actually means what he writes. The tone of his posts suggest that he is being dramatically sinister(an unfortunate trait of the human race ESPECIALLY common in the middle aged women of subcontinent) and is looking for nothing more than cheap entertainment by attempting to tempt me in to giving specific reasoning as to why Arthur's statements are so thickheaded. So for me to explain to him something which he and almost every adult should know will be an insult to mine and his intelligence.

In your case i can't say for certain if you are serious or not but i am just going to assume that you are NOT.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:54

Another reason for me not answering is that i had to sit through jackass 3D last night

Biggest waste of 94 mins of my life with the exception of the 3 awful years in community college.
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Post by eowyn Sun 07 Nov 2010, 19:43

PlanetPakistan wrote:this guy is a jackarse and will(should) be sued soon by PCB for this

"There was a strong suspicion of match-fixing and it took some of the gloss off the series win," Arthur had told the South African website Sport24, ahead of the publication of his autobiography, in which the same claim is set to be made. "We did not have any proof, but when you have been involved in the game long enough, you know when something is not right. How else do you explain a batting side needing only 40 runs with seven [sic] wickets in hand, and then losing?"

Thats just retarded stuff from Mickey.

Wouldn't you expect your team to get the 40 runs needed to win with 7 wickets in hand then? Opps, sorry, your team is Pakistan, of course you wouldn't...
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