Ties are rubbish

They keep saying things like, "What a great match! Cricket is the winner!"
Bo11ocks. Cricket is the loser because ties are rubbish, and we all know it.. Home ground disappointed. England supporters disappointed. Players on both sides disappointed. One big anticlimax all round. What's the point of two sides fighting for hours and each coming back from the dead if no one wins at the end? Good for cricket my ar5e. Yeah, that's really gonna sell it. You don't see Rocky picking himself up and fighting back against all the odds to end the film in an amazing, mind blowing... er... tie. Hardly box office gold.
I really hate that empty if-only oh-so-nearly feeling you get in these situations. Honestly, I'd almost sooner have seen India win it.
Ties are rubbish.

Was a bit weak of England to not run themselves out going for a suicidal second run to win the game - anything could've happened out there; India aren't a great fielding side.

They settled for avoiding defeat. That's Andrew Strauss' goal in all ODIs.

But it won't work in the knock-out rounds as ties will be told to get knotted in favour of, I don't know, hyper-duper-wonder overs or something. Like the T20 super overs. But probably with a different name and new elaborate hand/arm/leg/toe signal for Billy Bowden to butcher with his "quirky" interpretation.

Rocky lost the fight in the original film by the way...

"Ain't gonna be no rematch."

"Don't want one."

And then they decided to make Rocky 2. Is nobody's word their bond any more?

I thought ties were coming back into fashion.

Dello wrote:Was a bit weak of England to not run themselves out going for a suicidal second run to win the game - anything could've happened out there; India aren't a great fielding side.

They settled for avoiding defeat. That's Andrew Strauss' goal in all ODIs.

But it won't work in the knock-out rounds as ties will be told to get knotted in favour of, I don't know, hyper-duper-wonder overs or something. Like the T20 super overs. But probably with a different name and new elaborate hand/arm/leg/toe signal for Billy Bowden to butcher with his "quirky" interpretation.

To be fair, I think both captains settled for 'not losing' didn't they? I suppose Strauss's excuse would be that it would have been a bit harsh to expect Swann to throw it away after having got that far. I agree with you though, I wish they'd just gone for it and hang the consequences.
Must admit I haven't actually seen the Rocky films, but if he lost in the first one, then that still proves my point. Heroic losing is a better spectacle than a tie any day of the week.

(BTW more coat-getting jokes about ties, or indeed spectacles, are not really required, thank you)

What the f&%@ is wrong with a tie?

That's the result.

Neither side was able to win. Live with it. I don't want any manufactured super-over-bowlout bullsh!t.

Nobody settled for anything. It was sheer serendipity. If India had not run one short off the last ball of their innings they would have won (they were originally credited with 339). In the end the outcome was decided by a schoolboy error of placement of the bat.

Ties are always memorable in cricket as they're so rare. Two in the history of Test cricket I think, slightly more common in one-day cricket but still you remember it when it happens. Often it is effectively a win for one side or other, as it can eliminate a side or put them through in a group format - so really no need to have any other method of deciding it unless it is a knockout game.

It's usually only the mentally deficient (ie Americans and Leeg fans) who don't see a tie as a legitimate result

The worst tie I ever saw was with Northants a few years ago, can't remember the exact tournament but it was the quarter final of some one day competition. They were cruising to victory for their entire run chase, wickets in hand, well above the run rate. No pressure whatsoever basically.

I think they needed something like 4 from the last over, it got down to the last ball with them needing one to win and David Sales chipped the ball to mid on (or mid off, can't remember which) and it was a tie. We went on to lose the replay.

Could have been promotion playoffs now that I think about it but really can't remember, Danny can probably fill in the gaps.

Dello wrote:Was a bit weak of England to not run themselves out going for a suicidal second run to win the game

Cor, bit harsh...

I doubt Swanny had even made that first run by the time in was in the Injuns hands

He was home for one before the ball had been released, I reckon. With 2 wickets in hand, there was no reason at all not to strap on the kamikaze goggles and put pressure on the Indian fielders to not make a horlicks of a straightforward run out.

Aye, it was all Swanny's fault. He cost the side 3 runs with that Tuffers like misfield at short-fine leg in India's 3rd last over as well

He should be sent home - or made to sit next to KP on the bus

Forgot how outhouse he was in the field.

Pretty ordinary from both teams, aside from the odd brilliant innings. Made for a game, though...

and Bresnan - he stood out like dogs balls. 5 wickets, 2 runs/over below the match average and England would have been chasing another 30 if not for his last over.

He was probably the true MotM

Yeah, it was weird - like he was playing in a different game to everyone else.

Although, he's a bit thick, so he probably was - thought it was a Test or something.

I quite like Bressie.

Never going to be spectacular, and all in all a bit Yorkshire. But sound as a pound.

and I used to think/hope he was a Marty McCague type plodder ffs.

England probably gained more from this game than India - Bres's bowling and the overall batting effort.

India need to be worried about not defending a total of 338.

I still want to twat bell though

JKLever wrote:I quite like Bressie.

Never going to be spectacular, and all in all a bit Yorkshire. But sound as a pound.

I know he seems a bit of a bloater, but his arms are massive. Wider than a normal person's thigh. I imagine he's the kind of bloke who, if you saw him in the flesh, you'd probably not call a fat qunt.

That said: fat qunt.

There's gratitude for you.

The greatest JAMODI match ever was a tie.

Edgbaston 1999.

And funniest ending ever.

Can you imagine if the 1999 semi-final didn't end with a tie and instead had some hyped up super over?

That would have been more farcical than South Africa's running between the wickets.