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Post by tac Wed 28 Nov 2007, 05:42

It is being reported that Koetzen has been dumped from the SL v Eng tests due to the poor decision against Sanga in Hobart.

While I think it is good that Umpires pay a price (as do players) for poor performances, I'm not sure that one bad decision is sufficient to get dumped from a series. What do you think?
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Post by embee Wed 28 Nov 2007, 05:48

In real time that wasn't a bad decision ....Looked awful on the gazillion slo mo replays
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Post by JGK Wed 28 Nov 2007, 05:50

Wouldn't have happened if an Aussie was the batsman.

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Post by tac Wed 28 Nov 2007, 05:50

Yep, the ball passed very close to the under edge of the bat before crashing into Kumar's shoulder . . . a lot happening very quickly and a tough one.


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Post by embee Wed 28 Nov 2007, 05:51

Aleem Dar has replaced him ...maybe it's a replacement Test for the one he missed because of the visa stuff up
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Post by tac Wed 28 Nov 2007, 05:57

JGK wrote:Wouldn't have happened if an Aussie was the batsman.

If it was an Aussie batsmen everyone would have had a good laugh and tell us that it evens out in the long run. No outrage in the slightest.

That's the price you pay for stuffing every other team for the last decade.
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Post by Aathma Wed 28 Nov 2007, 21:50

Isn't Rudi replacing Bowden for the remainder of the India-Pakistan series?
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Post by Henry Thu 29 Nov 2007, 01:16

Well if a player performs poorly he gets dumped from a series, so I have no problem with the same happening to an Umpire.

As far as the Sangakkara decision goes, it's all very well you Aussies saying,"It was a tough one" etc(And like hell you wouldnt have been calling for blood if it was Ponting who was sawn off for 192 with Australia in the same match situation as Sri Lanka was, but anyway...), but the fact is, the DOUBT should still go to the batsman.

Let's not forget that Rudi also borked with his finger the previous day when Jaya showed his bat. Unsporting from Jayasuriya? Perhaps. But the fact is it showed that Koertzen has lost confidence in his own decision making.
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Post by JGK Thu 29 Nov 2007, 01:45

Henry wrote:
As far as the Sangakkara decision goes, it's all very well you Aussies saying,"It was a tough one" etc(And like hell you wouldnt have been calling for blood if it was Ponting who was sawn off for 192 with Australia in the same match situation as Sri Lanka was, but anyway...),
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Aleem Dar gave an horrendous decision against Katich at a vital time in the last Ashes series. There was disgust by Aussie supporters at the time but in the end there was recoginition that the England clearly deserved to win the series.

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Post by Geoffrey Trueman Thu 29 Nov 2007, 01:57

tac wrote: I'm not sure that one bad decision is sufficient to get dumped from a series.

If Rudi's lost a series on the back of one bad decision I can only assume that after his performances in South Africa Mark Benson will never umpire again.
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Post by embee Thu 29 Nov 2007, 04:20

"As far as the Sangakkara decision goes, it's all very well you Aussies saying,"It was a tough one" etc(And like hell you wouldnt have been calling for blood if it was Ponting who was sawn off for 192 with Australia in the same match situation as Sri Lanka was, but anyway...), but the fact is, the DOUBT should still go to the batsman."


Kasper????
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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 29 Nov 2007, 04:55

MB, you should know better than to waste precious moments of your life reading any Mudge pontification, especially anything that appears after the phrase 'you Aussies'.

The Sanga sawing-off was absolutely caned by everybody who expressed a view on the forum at the time, except that well-known Aussie JKL who allowed that it was 'a tough decision'. The rationalisation and laughing off of the decision that he was hinting at, just did not happen.

Trev is just looking for more kids for Matt Hayden to swear at.

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Post by embee Thu 29 Nov 2007, 05:02

Fred

I dont have to waste much time to remember something which contradicts a trev ozzie spray ...
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Post by please don't yell Thu 29 Nov 2007, 05:49

Surely this is punishment for what hair alleged rudi said?

As others have stated the likes of dar and bensen would be gone as well if one howler was enough.

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Post by taipan Thu 29 Nov 2007, 05:49

[quote="JGK"]
Henry wrote:
There was disgust by Aussie supporters at the time but in the end there was recoginition that the England clearly deserved to win the series.

Not from all if my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by mynah Thu 29 Nov 2007, 06:41

Aye, this should boost it ... Rolling Eyes
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Post by HH_pink Fri 30 Nov 2007, 01:14

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indvpak/content/current/story/322801.html

So, credit to the aussie media for making a mountain out of this molehill.
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Post by doremi Fri 30 Nov 2007, 09:17

But FFS, why do we have to have him?


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Post by SG Fri 30 Nov 2007, 09:50

HH_pink wrote:So, credit to the aussie media for making a mountain out of this molehill.
Thats Australian media for you.

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Post by tac Fri 30 Nov 2007, 09:59

Subis falling for ICC cover up shock
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Post by *Buckaroo* Fri 30 Nov 2007, 10:30

Rudi is facing that 190s dilemma again.
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Post by please don't yell Fri 30 Nov 2007, 12:10

Where did the Australian media enter into this?

I can't find any stories on the age or the australian about rudi being dumped for making a mistake?

Which papers made the allegations?

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Post by THICKEDGE Fri 30 Nov 2007, 15:49

The big question will be if Rudi is allowed to umpire against Pakistan after everyones friend Daryl Hair said Rudi had called them "cheats"
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Post by please don't yell Fri 30 Nov 2007, 16:17

Problem is hair was basically sacked because the asian teams said he couldn't be trusted.

Would be pretty hard to swallow if pakistan then used hair's words to hang rudi.

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Post by doremi Fri 30 Nov 2007, 19:12

Well, yeah the Asian teams. And the West Indies. And South Africa. And Zimbabwe.
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