While discussing the ICC: Runners abolished, ODIs tweaked

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/520924.html

Key points if you can't be bothered reading it:

Runners abolished. Too late to stop that fat qunt Arjuna taking advantage of it. But it stops players with alleged cramps taking one too. A good move.

New ball at each end during ODIs. Great Scott! Set the flux capacitor in the DeLorean for 1992...

Power Plays (both batting and bowling) must be taken between overs 16 and 40. A step in the right direction, but not as good as abolishing them completely would have been.

Captains will now cop a suspension after two over-rate violations in a year, instead of the previous three. I guess occasionally there'll be one beyond the players' control, so there has to be some leeway. A move in the right direction.

There's a bunch of ideas to be trialled in Domestic OD matches. Read the article in the link to find out what they are.

And most importantly, the DRS will become compulsory. In a modified form. Which I'll give its own topic shortly.

ODIs don't need more tweaking. Just schedule less of the meaninigless tournaments FFS.

Keep quiet Mudge, the ICC might hear you and replace more ODIs with t20s.

New ball from both ends? What a load of toss.

They originally had new balls from both ends didn't they?

Zat wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/520924.html

Key points if you can't be bothered reading it:

Runners abolished. Too late to stop that fat qunt Arjuna taking advantage of it. But it stops players with alleged cramps taking one too. A good move.

New ball at each end during ODIs. Great Scott! Set the flux capacitor in the DeLorean for 1992...
Power Plays (both batting and bowling) must be taken between overs 16 and 40. A step in the right direction, but not as good as abolishing them completely would have been.

Captains will now cop a suspension after two over-rate violations in a year, instead of the previous three. I guess occasionally there'll be one beyond the players' control, so there has to be some leeway. A move in the right direction.

There's a bunch of ideas to be trialled in Domestic OD matches. Read the article in the link to find out what they are.

And most importantly, the DRS will become compulsory. In a modified form. Which I'll give its own topic shortly.

Yes Red.

At the 1992 WC which was held in, wait for it, Australia. I also pointed that out yesterday.

BanIndia will crack the sads and none of these proposed changes will be adopted

Generally all good moves, sez me. The new balls from both ends worked fine for years in the formative days of 50-50. Not giving runners to unfit qunts is grouse. And the Powerplay stuff is just flowery twat material - it doesn't really matter.

Make runners allowable for any illness including cramp...let the bowling captain pick the runner

These rule changes are only for JAMODIs? In tests I thought the opposing captain could object to certain runners and even where a twelth man could field.

Changes to the run-out laws too. If a batsman changes the course he's running on and in any way impedes a run-out chance in doing so, he's a gonner. In theory.

Don't take my word for it - I only scanned the article. Something like that.

A couple of laws I would have liked to have seen them get rid of-

If the ball itself doesn't touch the boundary rope, it's not 4 runs, simple as that. How much time is wasted getting replay after replay to check whether a fielder has stopped a boundary or not.

Also, the backing up law. It's silly. In the final overs of an ODI or T20, the non striker can start sprinting down the wicket as soon as the bowler is in his delivery stride. Often he's a third of the way down the pitch by the time the ball is actually bowled. Silly.

Henry wrote:If the ball itself doesn't touch the boundary rope, it's not 4 runs, simple as that. How much time is wasted getting replay after replay to check whether a fielder has stopped a boundary or not.

the problem with that is the rope is not fixed. when a player slides he usually pushes the boundary back. what then?

Then it's not 4 runs.

Batsman already have enough laws in their favour.

doesnt sound fair to me. thats akin to a player arbitrarily changing the dimensions of the boundary whenever he chooses to

Not really TO

If the fielder palms the ball back, then the batsman has clearly failed to make the original distance to the boundary rope.

The fact that the fielders body is touching/over the rope doesn't make the ball travel any closer to it.

i am talking about the fielder pushing back the rope and the ball going beyond the original boundary dimensions

i wonder if they could have some kind of RFID tag on the ball with sensors on the boundary

So you think the fielder would think to push back the rope BEFORE he fields it? I'm trying to picture in my head what you're talking about.

if he can use any part of his body to push it back its not too hard to imagine. sliding saves on the boundary are standard fare in modern cricket. if chasing the ball towards the boundary all the fielder needs to do is lead with his legs and slide the boundary well back

its not too different really from the 'draggers' in the days of the old no ball rules (i am sure benaud would be happy to talk about it)

Well the rope can only physically be bent back about a metre. Besides, all the ropes have a painted line on the grass underneath them anyway, don't they?

Back when the boundary was the fence the ball had to hit the fence.

A fieldsman could be flush up against the fence and it wouldn't matter.

Now the rope means the playing field is smaller, and it's made even smaller still by the law which makes it a boundary if the fieldsman is touching the rope.

If the fieldsman pushes the rope back a bit, so what? It's only a metre. The fielding side could do with an extra metre for a change.

Zat wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/520924.html

Key points if you can't be bothered reading it:


New ball at each end during ODIs. Great Scott! Set the flux capacitor in the DeLorean for 1992...

It'll never work. I was speaking to a mate of mine who knows a few people at the BCCI. He says they are not willing to pay for 2 new balls per game. They don't mind having a new ball at one end, but from the other end they're going to have to bowl with a tennis ball, maybe with a bit of tape wrapped round it. If they can agree on the type of tape.

Brett Lee will then play until he's 100.