Re: The Football Thread - 2011/12

by tricycle Fri 16 Mar 2012, 11:49

Bayern may still be around in the latter stage, unless they're determined to fark it up as always this season.

by LeFromage Fri 16 Mar 2012, 11:53

Bayern/Real in the semis.

Madrid will clean them up. Is that a euphemism for being victorious? It is now.

by tricycle Fri 16 Mar 2012, 12:18

Hope not. They're as good as any side when everyone's fit, shame that they have to rely on Ribery and Robben for everybody to be fit. Hopefully Schweinsteiger will be fully fit by then.

by LeFromage Fri 16 Mar 2012, 13:59

Ribery's a complete mystery to me. Never once seen him be anything other than utterly mediocre, and yet people rave about him.

by tricycle Fri 16 Mar 2012, 14:11

He's good, not as good or as important as Robben, Muller, Gomez or Schweinsteiger by any means though. He's been injured for too long in Bayern and was also ostracised by Louis van Gaal to really make a great impact.

by beamer Fri 16 Mar 2012, 23:01

He was supposed to be France's main man in the World Cup and was shit (weren't they all?)

by PeterCS Fri 16 Mar 2012, 23:02

Wasn't he involved in the stews, the news and the screws?

Presumably his mind was on other things.

by tricycle Sat 17 Mar 2012, 18:49

Seems Muamba collapsed on the pitch and the defibrillator was brought out. Appears serious.

Tottenham Bolton stands cancelled.

by Yorkie Jill Sat 17 Mar 2012, 19:40

Doesn't sound good, any of it. No reports of him actually starting to breathe again after he collapsed.

by beamer Sat 17 Mar 2012, 19:54

Taking a very long time for any more news to come through, can't decide if that's a good or bad sign really. Put it on just after it happened and assumed from the reactions going on that there had been a serious injury like a bad break or clash of heads or something, but soon became clear it was a lot worse than that.

Hope he pulls through, past incidents of this type don't seem to have produced many positive outcomes but I do remember a Leicester player who collapsed in similar circumstances against us a few years ago and he came through it so hopefully there's a chance for him.

by Henry Sat 17 Mar 2012, 19:56

Best of luck to the lad, although i'm a little concerned that no news is bad news. Informing his family before telling the media etc....

by PeterCS Sat 17 Mar 2012, 19:58

Very sad news - and also, scary that that happens to someone you think is trained to peak physical fitness. It's obviously not that simple.

by tricycle Sun 18 Mar 2012, 04:22

Hope he recovers, he's supposedly showing 'real fight' for his life, whatever it means specifically.

Hopefully it's a bit like Ruben de la Red, he collapsed during a match for Real Madrid and later recovered but never played again and has since retired.

by LeFromage Sun 18 Mar 2012, 08:39

PeterCS wrote:Very sad news - and also, scary that that happens to someone you think is trained to peak physical fitness. It's obviously not that simple.

There have been a few footballers in recent years who have keeled over during games - couple of Spanish players died (Anotnio Puerta, aged 22, for Seville and 26 year-old Daniel Jarque of Espanyol who collapsed after a training session), as did Marc Vivien Foe while playing for Cameroon, aged 28. Most recently, Phil O'Donnell died of cardiac arrest (at 35) in a game for Motherwell, and former Celtic player Evander Sno had a heart attack while playing for Ajax reserves at 23 - though has since recovered and is playing again.

The first I remember in this country was David Longhurst in the late 1980s, who took a shot from outside the area (it was off target), dropped to the ground, and was all but dead before the ball even cleared the crossbar.

It might well be a sport for girly men, but don't underestimate the strain professional footballers put on their hearts, game after game of distance running (estimated at between 10 and 15km per match) interspersed with frequent short, high intensity sprints.

by Brass Monkey Sun 18 Mar 2012, 08:59

I remember Dave Longhurst well, he was an ex-Cobblers player and being young I was mortified, sort of one of the first thoughts about death I had.

Good luck to Muamba. Terrible news.

by tricycle Sun 18 Mar 2012, 09:52

Dello wrote:There have been a few footballers in recent years who have keeled over during games - couple of Spanish players died (Anotnio Puerta, aged 22, for Seville and 26 year-old Daniel Jarque of Espanyol who collapsed after a training session), as did Marc Vivien Foe while playing for Cameroon, aged 28. Most recently, Phil O'Donnell died of cardiac arrest (at 35) in a game for Motherwell, and former Celtic player Evander Sno had a heart attack while playing for Ajax reserves at 23 - though has since recovered and is playing again.

The first I remember in this country was David Longhurst in the late 1980s, who took a shot from outside the area (it was off target), dropped to the ground, and was all but dead before the ball even cleared the crossbar.

It might well be a sport for girly men, but don't underestimate the strain professional footballers put on their hearts, game after game of distance running (estimated at between 10 and 15km per match) interspersed with frequent short, high intensity sprints.

Worst of the lot, he collapsed once and continued playing and a few minutes later he collapsed again. Three days later, he was declared dead. It was a wonder he was allowed to play on after collapsing the first time by medical staff.

Didn't know that Sno had a heart attack, he made a more than decent recovery.

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