Sri Lanka v Australia, 1st Test, Galle, 31 Aug - 4 Sep, 2011

Henry wrote:

skully wrote:

JGK wrote:THose last 2 balls show that his time at No 3 should be coming to an end.

Sage.

When the team is starting to consider moving the 36 year old down the order, it's probably time for him to go for good.

Probably. He looked OK in the 1st dig, but.

lardbucket wrote:Trevor, I'm not complaining. I recognise that the English team is way ahead of the Australian team, and that we are around 4-5.

Take pleasure in your position, recognise that you need to fight to keep it, and you may stay there.

Crow, condescend, and patronise (as sometimes seems a national sport) and you will lose.

Well there was plenty of crowing and condescending when you guys were number 1. Everyone connected to Australian cricket constantly screaming from the rooftops that the Australian way was the only way to play the game. Constant cries from your media of "come on, challenge us...give us a fight!", whingeing from your players if opposition players dared have a go at them, or if Umpires dared turn down an overbearing appeal.....

You can hardly talk. But FWIW, your team from 1999-2007 would have beaten this current England side. As a lot of Aussie fans are oh so quick to point out.....

lardbucket wrote:I wish ...

Well that's no help to the little bro.

lardbucket wrote:Trevor, I'm not complaining. I recognise that the English team is way ahead of the Australian team, and that we are around 4-5.

Take pleasure in your position, recognise that you need to fight to keep it, and you may stay there.

Crow, condescend, and patronise (as sometimes seems a national sport) and you will lose.

I tried that. It didn't work.

Wish I had gloated now.

Sir Bargearse of Launceston. Try this...

Dodgy link to 1st Test SL v Aus

Henry wrote:
Well there was plenty of crowing and condescending when you guys were number 1. Everyone connected to Australian cricket constantly screaming from the rooftops that the Australian way was the only way to play the game. Constant cries from your media of "come on, challenge us...give us a fight!", whingeing from your players if opposition players dared have a go at them, or if Umpires dared turn down an overbearing appeal.....

You can hardly talk. But FWIW, your team from 1999-2007 would have beaten this current England side. As a lot of Aussie fans are oh so quick to point out.....

Y'as I was saying, when I first came on here in '03 up until the not-too-distant past of '08, to a man the strine forummers thought they had carte blanche on who is good and who is bad - be it a team or player. Thought they could talk with authority about said team or player by the simple fact they were #1. "oh... HE didn't do very well in the hour between tea and close at Perth", England player - "TAYPOC", "Calm down, you only beat **insert a lesser team than Aus here**", coming on our match threads casting aspersions, blah blah blah - thousands more examples, from a whole manner of Aussie forummers. It's not very nice, not at all. But there we go, maybe it's our turn in the sun to act like quasi-kings.

Fair call - you've earned it.

Stoopid Phews. Getting out to Dilshan's nude balls.

It seemed like Hawkeye didn't show what the ball actually did after pitching there.

That Hawkeye was bullsh!t. It clearly turned, and yet the referral showed it going straight on (and it certainly didn't hit him on the full). I reckon it might have missed off.

Trev, Danny, vilks ... I don't agree that 'to a man' Australians gloated when we were on top. Nor am I alleging that England currently do this 'to a man'. However (in my opinion) this unattractive and ultimately self-defeating trait is more prevalent and more c*ck-wavingly displayed by English fans, and (more damagingly, and the point Vilks missed earlier) there is smug sneering condescension and a born to rule mentality amongst some of their players. It may be why KP has fitted in so well!

For this reason, this cultural inability not to be distracted from the need to keep working by an irresistible smug hubris, I suspect England will not be able to last as long at the top as Australia did. 'You' think you deserve it, and don't need to keep working because 'everyone else is just so much rubbish'. We thought we'd fought like hell to get to the top, treasured it, fiercely defended it, and (now thsat we've lost it) will fight like hell to get back up there. A culture of chippy resentment of gloating Hooray Henry hubris (exemplar Rob S and his ilk sneering at a cultural wasteland of 'convicts') is what fuels an unquenchable desire amongst many Australians to come back and beat you 'smug qunts', preferably sooner rather than later, and why our victories (when they occur) are so sweet.

As I say, this is just a perception, and I am sure many English fans and players don't feel this (smug self-satisfied) way and are simply quietly pleased to have fought their way to the top, and quietly confident that they will stay there if they keep working hard.

and ... btw ... we are doomed

wish we had Katich ...

That was the weirdest Hawkeye projection I have ever seen. Surely the ball wasn't going anywhere near that direction?

Damn straight, L. I see gloating as akin to a woof. I may have shown plenty of excitement at good Aus exploits but I never shoved my c0ck in our English comrades faces. Methinks Dan is tarring us all with Zimmy's brush.

Danny ... 'coming on our match threads'

WideWally wrote:That was the weirdest Hawkeye projection I have ever seen. Surely the ball wasn't going anywhere near that direction?

Absolutely, W. Maybe the Bannies are right afterall. Very cockeyed prediction of the ball's path. It clearly pitched and turned.

there is smug sneering condescension and a born to rule mentality amongst some of their players.

*cough* Matthew Hayden *cough*

Mcgrath- "We'll win 5-0."

Not to mention the over-the top-ness of Steve Waugh and the baggy green worshiping. Wearing them to the Wimbledon final etc. Even former Aus players were embarrassed by that.

skully wrote:

WideWally wrote:That was the weirdest Hawkeye projection I have ever seen. Surely the ball wasn't going anywhere near that direction?

Absolutely, W. Maybe the Bannies are right afterall. Very cockeyed prediction of the ball's path. It clearly pitched and turned.

Aye. The closeups showed sharp spin which would make you think it could have been heading outside the off stump.

A culture of chippy resentment of gloating Hooray Henry hubris (exemplar Rob S and his ilk sneering at a cultural wasteland of 'convicts') is what fuels an unquenchable desire amongst many Australians to come back and beat you 'smug qunts', preferably sooner rather than later, and why our victories (when they occur) are so sweet.

Well unfortunately for you, Andrew Strauss and Andy Flower run the England team, not me or Rob S, so our supposed gloating, condescending attitudes, over confidence, and chippiness means f*ck all when it comes to the performance of the England team.

I would agree totally that Hayden was often over the top.

McGrath's quote of AIMING to win 5-0 continues to be mis-remembered ... straw men, etc

I never said our mob were angels. Some smug qunts here too. Not as many, mind.

lardbucket wrote: It may be why KP has fitted in so well!

So is that a generalisation aimed at South Africans?

No taipan ... wasn't he disliked in South Africa because of this attitude?

lardbucket wrote:I would agree totally that Hayden was often over the top.

McGrath's quote of AIMING to win 5-0 continues to be mis-remembered ... straw men, etc

I never said our mob were angels. Some smug qunts here too. Not as many, mind.

So which of the current England team is a smug qunt? KP aside, they're probably the most down to Earth and level headed blokes you can find. No outlandish statements, no "5-0". They just get on with it, really.

lardbucket wrote:No taipan ... wasn't he disliked in South Africa because of this attitude?

TBH, he didn't really have a big enough profile in SA to be liked or disliked.

taipan wrote:

lardbucket wrote:No taipan ... wasn't he disliked in South Africa because of this attitude?

TBH, he didn't really have a big enough profile in SA to be liked or disliked.

LOL. A Saffie being disliked in his own Country for being an over-confident, arrogant qunt?? That'll be the day....