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Post by Red Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:43

Okay I may be a moron for suggesting that the incomparable Boucher should be dropped but would welcome other people's opinions on the topic. Has he a right to be so drop proof?

My reasons for him to be dropped, or at least strongly considered for dropping since the selectors haven't really given an indication that he's in the gun.

He's been struggling with the bat for some time. This has been exacerbated since Pollock's retirement and with the knowledge that Steyn aside, SA's tail is very fragile.

He might have the world record for dismissals but over the past eighteen months has dropped some crucial catches with the latest being his error re. Sangakkara who was on three at the time and went on to add over a hundred.

He's thirty-five and the reflexes are slowing as evidenced by the Sanga stuff up.

His batting has never been stellar anyway. Apart from his first few tests after which he averaged forty-two, his average has only ever climbed to thirty-one but for a long period hovered in the twenties.

He makes a ton on average every forty innings. Four of his five tons have been against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, the Windies with one against a pommy team in the Caddick days.

There other other Saffie keepers making runs and the ones in contention have better first class batting averages than Boucher. In fact Kuhn made runs in this current match opening the batting and starred against the Aussies the last time we toured.

Taipan's view is that they need experience for NZ and England. What possible use is his experience atm? Last time I checked in any case, the SA team is pretty much laden with experience.

Taipan has just told me I know nothing about the game so everything stated above is obviously rubbish but I'd welcome other people's views on this.

Should the axe be poised over Boucher?
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Post by taipan Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:45

Nice tits Red
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Post by Henry Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:46

Laughing







That is all.
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Post by Red Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:50

Well that's typical. I forever get accused of coming up with nothing original, copying and pasting etc. etc.

Everyone time I express an opinion I get hit with sarcasm or personal abuse.

I want Taipan to debate the Boucher issue with valid points for a change.

For that matter the Prince or Rudolph situation.

Does Taipan ever not hide behind his sarcasm or personal abuse defence/elucidation?
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Post by taipan Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:52

Read my post in the test thread about the pointlessness of trying to debate anything with you.
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Post by Henry Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:56

Red, you have brought up Boucher's position in the South African side in every second post you make for the last two months. It's starting to get tiresome. I actually agree with you on some points regarding Boucher, but I felt I only needed to state those points a couple of times in a couple of posts before dropping it and moving on.
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Post by Red Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:57

taipan wrote:Read my post in the test thread about the pointlessness of trying to debate anything with you.

I've already referred to it (i.e. you know nothing about the game) which is why I want other opinions on Boucher.

And of course you have the opportunity here to outline in detail why Boucher is undroppable because you implied in the match thread that anyone calling for his head was a moron, so I just want a spirited defence of him mounted in a cogent style. Of course you've deflected to fine leg again!
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Post by taipan Fri 30 Dec 2011, 23:59

Henry wrote:Red, you have brought up Boucher's position in the South African side in every second post you make for the last two months. It's starting to get tiresome. I actually agree with you on some points regarding Boucher, but I felt I only needed to state those points a couple of times in a couple of posts before dropping it and moving on.

I, too, have stated my position on Boucher on numerous occasions..
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Post by JGK Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:11

Can you two love birds please put your thoughts on Boucher in this thread once and for all and not clutter up other threads going forward.

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Post by taipan Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:13

JGK wrote:Can you two love birds please put your thoughts on Boucher in this thread once and for all and not clutter up other threads going forward.

I admire him and want to have his child.
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Post by Red Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:14

Mine are up the top of the thread but Taipan as usual is being evasive.

What are yours JG?
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Post by Henry Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:14

taipan wrote:
Henry wrote:Red, you have brought up Boucher's position in the South African side in every second post you make for the last two months. It's starting to get tiresome. I actually agree with you on some points regarding Boucher, but I felt I only needed to state those points a couple of times in a couple of posts before dropping it and moving on.

I, too, have stated my position on Boucher on numerous occasions..

Ok. Then you should STFU as well then Laughing Wink
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Post by JGK Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:18

Red wrote:Mine are up the top of the thread but Taipan as usual is being evasive.

What are yours JG?


Somewhere between the two of you it seems.

FWIW - I have always thought Boucher was pretty mediocre as a keeper and batsman but obviously close to indestructible. However, I have no idea whether there are better alternatives in Saf FC cricket.

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Post by Red Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:23

JGK wrote:
Red wrote:Mine are up the top of the thread but Taipan as usual is being evasive.

What are yours JG?


Somewhere between the two of you it seems.

FWIW - I have always thought Boucher was pretty mediocre as a keeper and batsman but obviously close to indestructible. However, I have no idea whether there are better alternatives in Saf FC cricket.

Thanks and I guess your verdict is that SA is a land hardly blessed with keepers over the years! My memory of Dave Richardson was that he tried hard but wasn't over endowed with talent either.
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Post by taipan Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:26

Red wrote:
JGK wrote:
Red wrote:Mine are up the top of the thread but Taipan as usual is being evasive.

What are yours JG?


Somewhere between the two of you it seems.

FWIW - I have always thought Boucher was pretty mediocre as a keeper and batsman but obviously close to indestructible. However, I have no idea whether there are better alternatives in Saf FC cricket.

Thanks and I guess your verdict is that SA is a land hardly blessed with keepers over the years! My memory of Dave Richardson was that he tried hard but wasn't over endowed with talent either.

Ah sweet, JGK has made himself a little friend.
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Post by lardbucket Sat 31 Dec 2011, 00:58

He (Boucher) has always been a better keeper than Kamral Akmal, in my view. That's more than some here have said in his favour.

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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 03 Jan 2012, 23:12

Red wrote:Okay I may be a moron....
He's been struggling with the bat for some time....
Should the axe be poised over Boucher?

Well, apart from averaging 35 for the last three years which, at least by his standard, is good.
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Been poor for his last 13 Tests

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Post by mynah Sun 08 Jan 2012, 06:13

This guy is not doing too badly...
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Post by Red Sun 08 Jan 2012, 13:28

Yes Mynah I mentioned him in the match thread and he was talked about in despatches early in the summer as a possible replacement.

It's surely a case of what are they waiting for? And especially so when you look at his more than respectable first class record compared with Boucher's.
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Post by Fred Nerk Sun 08 Jan 2012, 13:46

You may be a moron, Clarke may have played well the other day, the sun may set in the west and water may be wet.

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Post by taipan Sun 08 Jan 2012, 17:21

And of course there may be the simple fact that he wasn't keeping regularly until this season. He was the understudy to Tsolikile at the Lions.
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Post by Henry Sun 08 Jan 2012, 17:50

Tsolekile is seemingly irreplaceable at the Lions, and has held back both Dane Vilas and Quinton de Kock. However, he's had a pretty decent season and is probably the keeper next in line should they decide to replace Boucher for the New Zealand tour.
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Post by Red Sun 08 Jan 2012, 19:07

Fred Nerk wrote:You may be a moron, Clarke may have played well the other day, the sun may set in the west and water may be wet.

It seems anybody is a moron if they suggest that underperforming, ageing incumbent keepers be replaced. It's certainly easier to get in and that out of the test keeping positions for some.

Anyway with Vilas, he's gone to the Cobras and starred after the coach there who has allegedly produced a lot of good players nominated him as the heir apparent before this season.
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Post by Henry Sun 08 Jan 2012, 19:08

It seems anybody is a moron if they suggest that underperforming, ageing incumbent keepers be replaced. It's certainly easier to get in and that out of the test keeping positions for some.

Yet, you barely touch on Brad Haddin, but plough into Boucher. Your selectiveness is so f*cking obvious, and you're meant to be an Aussie.
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