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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 11 Jul 2013, 14:58

OK - so when does he bowl? If I was Pup I'd give him the ball for the 10th over just in case he needs reminding game's still on

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Post by Chivalry Augustus Thu 11 Jul 2013, 14:59

The pitch is flat and I would have accepted a 60 run deficit at the conclusion of England's innings yesterday. Unfortunately, the manner of the concession of that deficit will have drained England. Whether they have the mental strength to overcome that, I do not know. Personally, I doubt it. I think this England team is a shambles at present from top to bottom. Flower and Cook provide little actual leadership, and that is reflected in their results together - other than in India.

England can win this match from here, but it will be off Cook or Pietersen's bat it they do.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:00

Henry wrote:I've officially climbed to the top of anger mountain and am now descending into resignation valley.

Avoid Hysteria Heath, Paranoid Schizophrenia Plain, and especially The Sea of Suicide.

It's the Ashes, but it's a game.
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Post by baggygreen Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:00

beamer wrote:So is 65 a winning lead on this? Much could depend on how Agar bowls, unless we just tamely capitulate to the seamers again, which is a strong possibility.
England have plenty of time now to capitalise on the conditions and make up for their first innings.

Less than 3 out at stumps and the game is still in the balance.
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Post by doremi Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:01

Early prediction - Pattinson to get 20+ wickets in this series, if he plays all matches.
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Post by Hass Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:02

It's amazing how much two runs can mean.

If Agar gets his hundred it doesn't matter what happens after that. Australia are 100% jubilant.

But by stopping him getting that fairytale 100 England get something to smile about and the Aussies come down a notch.

Test Cricket. It's just too much sometimes.

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Post by baggygreen Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:03

I reckon workload played a bit factor there too. 3.5 bowlers sharing the load is not enough.
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Post by beamer Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:03

1st innings started with a wide, 2nd with a no-ball...

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Post by JGK Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:04

Poor start from Patto.

England need about 250 to be safe.

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Post by Henry Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:04

So what would England feel remotely comfortable with? 300 run lead?
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Post by PeterCS Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:06

Looking on the bright side (from a Pom point of view): Neither opener has got a blob.
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Post by Neil D Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:07

Hass wrote:

Test Cricket. It's just too much sometimes.

This is what I find hard to explain to my non cricket-watching mates. They can't understand why I'd prefer to spend 5 days watching a Test than spend 3 hours watching no-marks slogging a ball about in a T20.

This is why Test cricket is completely, totally, utterly, infinitely better than limited overs cricket.
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Post by JGK Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:08

Neil D wrote:
Hass wrote:

Test Cricket. It's just too much sometimes.

This is what I find hard to explain to my non cricket-watching mates.  They can't understand why I'd prefer to spend 5 days watching a Test than spend 3 hours watching no-marks slogging a ball about in a T20.

This is why Test cricket is completely, totally, utterly, infinitely better than limited overs cricket.


Amen.

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Post by Henry Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:09

Strauss- "I wonder if Ashton Agar's just starting to think, "Wow....maybe I shouldn't have played that shot"


He won two Ashes series, you know.
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Post by JGK Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:11

FArk that was close.


We're even now on that stumping.

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Post by Henry Thu 11 Jul 2013, 15:11

So will the same Aussies who said that Rogers wasn't out now say that Root WAS out?

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