Subis sticking together

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Akram calls Aussies 'cry babies'

January 07, 2008
FORMER Pakistan captain Wasim Akram has reportedly accused Australia of behaving like "cry babies" for lodging a racism report against India's Harbhajan Singh during the second cricket Test at the SCG.

Harbhajan was suspended for three Tests after being found guilty of racially abusing Australia's Andrew Symonds for calling him a "monkey".

India plan to appeal against that verdict and have suspended their tour pending the outcome.

But Akram accused Australia of double standards, as they were "the worst in the world" at sledging opponents.

"I have played a large part of my cricket against the Aussies. Sometimes they said stuff, sometimes we did and then we moved on," Akram told India's Hindustan Times newspaper.

"We did not behave like cry babies and drag it to the officials ... They do it constantly and much more than anyone else. So how they can go out and complain about other teams, I don't know."

Indian great Kapil Dev was also surprised by the Harbhajan verdict.

"It is surprising and unfair. The Indian team is one of the most gentle teams in the world," he told the Hindustan Times.

Indian media reacted with anger towards Harbhajan's suspension and the standard of umpiring in the second Test, and also questioned the sportsmanship of the Australian team.

As effigies of umpires Mark Benson and Steve Bucknor burned across India, the Deccan Herald said Anil Kumble's side was on the wrong end of eight umpiring mistakes, which had affected the outcome.

"India have every reason to come away from the 122-run defeat to Australia in the second Test at the Sydney Cricket Ground believing that justice is a word which exists only in the dictionary," it said.

"Sure, there will be the odd umpiring error or two, but that is only to be expected because umpires are human, too.

"It is when the incompetence of the umpires is so marked that their decision-making becomes the decisive factor, as happened at the SCG, that tempers start to flare up."

The Indian Express was similarly critical of the umpiring and ran the headline: "Team India c Benson b Bucknor".

The Mumbai Mirror was critical of Australia's sportsmanship during the final day.

The newspaper ran the headline "Integrity Be Damned" above three photographs, one which showed Adam Gilchrist claiming a catch off Rahul Dravid, another of Ponting signalling to Benson that Michael Clarke had caught Sourav Ganguly, and one of the Australians celebrating victory.

The Indian Times also accused Australia of being "poor winners" and concocting the racism charge against Harbhajan to take the focus off the umpiring mistakes made against India.

"Clearly, Ricky Ponting's men are poor winners," it said.

"They have been stunned by India's resilience and are unable to accept that for the second time their victory streak might be halted by the same team.

"The BCCI is already suggesting the charges are nothing but mind games to detract from the umpiring gaffes."

The Indian Times also questioned whether Clarke would be charged with dissent for standing his ground when clearly caught at slip, and attempting to cheat when he claimed the catch off Ganguly.



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But subis don't act the same way. That's why you can't brand people from the same subcontinental region with a label that says they're from the same subcontinental region.

Apparently Wasim Akram hasn't been to this forum.

I thought someone had banged Kumble and Harbajhan's heads together, and that this thread was announcing the result. Disappointed.

Meh, he, like most Aussie journos, is trying to sell papers.

PMSL.

Another example of 'subis sticking tgether', even 'acting the same way'.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ausvind/content/current/story/329477.html

Here furry, you want a PMSL:

"It is surprising and unfair. The Indian team is one of the most gentle teams in the world,"

Utter rot. No-one has been as bad as them in the last year.

Batfink Begins wrote:Here furry, you want a PMSL:

"It is surprising and unfair. The Indian team is one of the most gentle teams in the world,"

Utter rot. No-one has been as bad as them in the last year.

Aye maybe it was true a year before but it seems Sreesanth has had an effect on the newer players and esp Yuvraj, the older players Dravid, Tendy, Kumble and even Dhoni are all class.

Saying that though would have loved to seen Sreesanth unleashed on the Aussies again, his previous run ins with Hyaden and Symonds were hilarious.

Makaveli wrote:Saying that though would have loved to seen Sreesanth unleashed on the Aussies again, his previous run ins with Hyaden and Symonds were hilarious.

So I take it everyone has cancelled anything they were doing so they can watch the start of the 3rd test?

Batfink Begins wrote:Here furry, you want a PMSL:

"It is surprising and unfair. The Indian team is one of the most gentle teams in the world,"

Utter rot. No-one has been as bad as them in the last year.

Yeah but that's Kapil Dev. What would you be reasonably be expected to do if you were Kapil Dev and thereby had a unbreakable mandate to be, erm, Kapil Dev?

Yeah, jokes aside, that does stand up there...

Hard to take anything akram says too seriously.

His autobiography was pretty funny.

every second chapter was entitled something like 'whats wrong with english cricket 'whats wrong with the english attitude' ect ect

bloke seems to hold a heck of a lot of grudges especially against white teams he played against.

JKLever wrote:

Makaveli wrote:Saying that though would have loved to seen Sreesanth unleashed on the Aussies again, his previous run ins with Hyaden and Symonds were hilarious.

So I take it everyone has cancelled anything they were doing so they can watch the start of the 3rd test?

Yeah I'm there. Hopefully they don't go into full frontal, liplocked kissy kissy mode to show everyone what good allround blokes and great friends they are.

Can you imagine the pressure on Bucknor?

JKLever wrote:Can you imagine the pressure on Bucknor?

Not seeing or hearing anything can do wonders to pressure. I'd advise Bucknor to do the same. Oh wait..

JKLever wrote:Can you imagine the pressure on Bucknor?

Indeed. And what a pity. He's probably coming towards the end, but whatever his errors, he is an honourable man, who has done his best and has never been anything other than scrupulously impartial. A shame he had such a horror test, and that one or two have cast aspersions on his honesty.

Aye, mebbe so.
I don't dispute the fact that Bucknor is both impartial and an honourable man, BUT - it's a HUGE BUT - he's been having far too many "horror" tests with some real howlers during the past year or so, with far too many excuses made for them.
And by that I don't mean just tests involving India and Australia.... everyone!

The man is well past his sell-by date and ought seriously to consider standing down, just as David Shepherd did a couple of years back.

Well that didn't take long - while India have the ICC over a barrel the Paks might as well have a free shot:

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/330349.html

Cricinfo staff
January 11, 2008


The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has asked the ICC to change the result of the Oval Test against England, played in August 2006, which was officially awarded as a forfeit to England.

A senior board official confirmed to Cricinfo that the ICC cricket committee will consider an application from Pakistan in which they want the result of the Oval test overturned at their next meeting. The official said that Pakistan made the application last year and wanted the result declared abandoned or drawn.

England were declared winners of the Test after Pakistan forfeited the match on the fourth day in protest over umpire Darrell Hair's decision to penalise them for alleged ball tampering. It was the first forfeited result in Test cricket.

Pakistan refused to play on after tea once Hair had awarded England five penalty runs in their second innings for ball tampering. The issue escalated into a major row, with the ICC eventually dropping the ball tampering charges against Pakistan but suspending then captain, Inzamam-ul-Haq for four matches for misconduct. The ICC later also stopped posting Hair in international matches, a stance it has yet to change.

"We have made the application to the ICC and they will consider it at the next cricket committee meeting," the official told Cricinfo.

Pakistan's case, he added, was strengthened by the fact that England supported the application when the matter was discussed at the executive board meeting of the ICC.

"We have moved the application on the basis of the ICC dropping the ball tampering charges against our team," the official added.

Inzamam told a leading Urdu daily Jang on Friday that Pakistan should take a lead from the Indian board and push to change the result of the Oval Test. Inzamam was referring to the ICC's decision to drop Steve Bucknor from the Perth Test between India and Australia after the BCCI complained over Bucknor's umpiring in Sydney. Inzamam said the Pakistan board should pressurise the ICC because the ball tampering charges were eventually dropped. England won the series 3-0.

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