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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Fri 03 Mar 2017, 00:02
Bumped for when MrK does have time.
Try this one.
India's 1st innings 105 in the 1st Test contained an individual 50 (KL Rahul 64) and a 50 partnership (50 for 4th wkt). There have been only 2 lower completed innings totals containing an individual 50 and a 50 partnership. When?
Low completed Test innings total including individual 50 and a 50 partnership:
?
?
105 - Ind v Aus, Pune, 2016-17 - #2 KL Rahul 64/50 runs for 4th wkt
Try this one.
India's 1st innings 105 in the 1st Test contained an individual 50 (KL Rahul 64) and a 50 partnership (50 for 4th wkt). There have been only 2 lower completed innings totals containing an individual 50 and a 50 partnership. When?
Low completed Test innings total including individual 50 and a 50 partnership:
?
?
105 - Ind v Aus, Pune, 2016-17 - #2 KL Rahul 64/50 runs for 4th wkt
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Fri 03 Mar 2017, 00:04
Peter's Q also bumped for further consideration.
Here’s a quiz question – not topical, but perhaps of interest.
The classic historian and cricket writer CLR James was a great fan of George Headley (“the Black Bradman”, as others called him). See avatar left.
But which THREE outstanding qualities of a great batsman did he identify Headley as demonstrating to a superior level?
And which one of those three did he consider the “most important”?
If you prefer, you can treat this (under the Spoiler cowl) as a multiple choice question.
(I've had to amend his wording slightly, for obvious reasons.)
Don’t forget to select James’ top quality of the three.
Here’s a quiz question – not topical, but perhaps of interest.
The classic historian and cricket writer CLR James was a great fan of George Headley (“the Black Bradman”, as others called him). See avatar left.
But which THREE outstanding qualities of a great batsman did he identify Headley as demonstrating to a superior level?
And which one of those three did he consider the “most important”?
If you prefer, you can treat this (under the Spoiler cowl) as a multiple choice question.
(I've had to amend his wording slightly, for obvious reasons.)
Don’t forget to select James’ top quality of the three.
- Multiple Choice?:
1. Quick in assessing the wicket
2. Quick in his bat movement
3. Quick into the hook or pull
4. Quick on his feet
5. Quick to call a run
6. Quick to get off the mark
7. Quick to judge what role was needed
8. Quick to learn new strokes
9. Quick to see the ball early
10. Quick to spot a bowler’s weaknesses
11. Quick with the sledging
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Re: Trivia 2017
by Bradman Fri 03 Mar 2017, 00:40
skully wrote:Bumped for when MrK does have time.
Try this one.
India's 1st innings 105 in the 1st Test contained an individual 50 (KL Rahul 64) and a 50 partnership (50 for 4th wkt). There have been only 2 lower completed innings totals containing an individual 50 and a 50 partnership. When?
Low completed Test innings total including individual 50 and a 50 partnership:
?
?
105 - Ind v Aus, Pune, 2016-17 - #2 KL Rahul 64/50 runs for 4th wkt
Goddard and Westcott, Capetown '58 - 99
Gunn and Hobbs, MCG '08 - 105
That last one's not lower but I figured you just screwed up the question.
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Re: Trivia 2017
by PeterCS Fri 03 Mar 2017, 03:51
Bradman wrote:PeterCS wrote:Here’s a quiz question – not topical, but perhaps of interest.
The classic historian and cricket writer CLR James was a great fan of George Headley (“the Black Bradman”, as others called him). See avatar left.
But which THREE outstanding qualities of a great batsman did he identify Headley as demonstrating to a superior level?
And which one of those three did he consider the “most important”?
If you prefer, you can treat this (under the Spoiler cowl) as a multiple choice question.
(I've had to amend his wording slightly, for obvious reasons.)
Don’t forget to select James’ top quality of the three.
- Multiple Choice?:
1. Quick in assessing the wicket
2. Quick in his bat movement
3. Quick into the hook or pull
4. Quick on his feet
5. Quick to call a run
6. Quick to get off the mark
7. Quick to judge what role was needed
8. Quick to learn new strokes
9. Quick to see the ball early
10. Quick to spot a bowler’s weaknesses
11. Quick with the sledging
I don't know about three. But he went all trippy once explaining some "Caddyshack" like ability to "be the ball". So I'll say reading the delivery early as the most important. Placing shots purely to tire bowlers in the field was also something he was said to do.
James, trippy?
Here's the answer, and source:
- The 3 top batting qualities (acc CLR James re:
- CLR James:
Paragraph 3 of "George Headley: Nascitur Non Fit" (meaning btw: "He/It is Born, Not Made"), = Part 4 of "Beyond a Boundary", any edition."He had to a superlative degree the three cardinal qualities of the super batsman. He saw the ball early. He was quick on his feet. He was quick with his bat. The most important of all, in my view, is seeing the ball early."
So bullseye, Bradders!
- Just a couple of idle spin-off thoughts, re:
- Interesting, that. No prioritising the state of the wicket, the state of the game, the team, or adjustments of any sort - to James, it seemed all about accurate speed of eye, foot and (then) bat movement.
I suppose everyone hearing of Bradman has wondered quite what set him apart. (This has been written on, of course.)
I think James has a point. Bradman too excelled in spotting the ball from the hand, getting into the right position, and whipping the ball away briskly. When he failed, it was often early in the innings, either to extreme speed - the pace of the ball deceives even the fastest eye, neutralising that batsman's greatest advantage (fear no doubt a factor too!) - or else to extreme guile, esp the wickedly disguised googly/wrong un. Bradman would see it quickly ... but thereby would have guessed wrong. Think not only of his final Test innings, but how Peebles - before he lost his leggie - Robins at his best, Tiger & Grum (mind you, they outwitted many) and again, on top form, the SLA Verity fooled him.
He could "spot" most of them, crush many - but if up against a conjuror, he did occasionally (esp before properly warmed up) guess fast, jump into position - and get it wrong.
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Re: Trivia 2017
by Bradman Fri 03 Mar 2017, 04:06
PeterCS wrote:Bradman wrote:PeterCS wrote:Here’s a quiz question – not topical, but perhaps of interest.
The classic historian and cricket writer CLR James was a great fan of George Headley (“the Black Bradman”, as others called him). See avatar left.
But which THREE outstanding qualities of a great batsman did he identify Headley as demonstrating to a superior level?
And which one of those three did he consider the “most important”?
If you prefer, you can treat this (under the Spoiler cowl) as a multiple choice question.
(I've had to amend his wording slightly, for obvious reasons.)
Don’t forget to select James’ top quality of the three.
- Multiple Choice?:
1. Quick in assessing the wicket
2. Quick in his bat movement
3. Quick into the hook or pull
4. Quick on his feet
5. Quick to call a run
6. Quick to get off the mark
7. Quick to judge what role was needed
8. Quick to learn new strokes
9. Quick to see the ball early
10. Quick to spot a bowler’s weaknesses
11. Quick with the sledging
I don't know about three. But he went all trippy once explaining some "Caddyshack" like ability to "be the ball". So I'll say reading the delivery early as the most important. Placing shots purely to tire bowlers in the field was also something he was said to do.
James, trippy?
Here's the answer, and source:
- The 3 top batting qualities (acc CLR James re:
So bullseye, Bradders!
- Just a couple of idle spin-off thoughts, re:
I suppose everyone hearing of Bradman has wondered quite what set him apart. (This has been written on, of course.)
I think James has a point. Bradman too excelled in spotting the ball from the hand, getting into the right position, and whipping the ball away briskly. When he failed, it was often early in the innings, either to extreme speed - the pace of the ball deceives even the fastest eye, neutralising that batsman's greatest advantage (fear no doubt a factor too!) - or else to extreme guile, esp the wickedly disguised googly/wrong un. Bradman would see it quickly ... but thereby would have guessed wrong. Think not only of his final Test innings, but how Peebles - before he lost his leggie - Robins at his best, Tiger & Grum (mind you, they outwitted many) and again, on top form, the SLA Verity fooled him.
He could "spot" most of them, crush many - but if up against a conjuror, he did occasionally (esp before properly warmed up) guess fast, jump into position - and get it wrong.
Well he was West Indian mon.
I actually recommended 'Beyond the Boundary to a Seppo mate after a long night on the wallop solving the problems of the world. He thought it brilliant but didn't do too much to help his understanding of the game itself. Upon re-reading it he might have been right but the title would suggest it wasn't James' priority.
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Fri 03 Mar 2017, 05:28
Bradman wrote:skully wrote:Bumped for when MrK does have time.
Try this one.
India's 1st innings 105 in the 1st Test contained an individual 50 (KL Rahul 64) and a 50 partnership (50 for 4th wkt). There have been only 2 lower completed innings totals containing an individual 50 and a 50 partnership. When?
Low completed Test innings total including individual 50 and a 50 partnership:
?
?
105 - Ind v Aus, Pune, 2016-17 - #2 KL Rahul 64/50 runs for 4th wkt
Goddard and Westcott, Capetown '58 - 99
Gunn and Hobbs, MCG '08 - 105
That last one's not lower but I figured you just screwed up the question.
Fair call. 105 is not lower than 105, but they are the correct answers.
Low completed Test innings total including individual 50 and a 50 partnership:
99 - SAf v Aus, Cape Town, 1957-58 - #2 TL Goddard 56*/56 runs for 2nd wkt
105 - Eng v Aus, Melbourne(5), 1907-08 - #1 JB Hobbs 57/58 runs for 1st wkt
105 - Ind v Aus, Pune, 2016-17 - #2 KL Rahul 64/50 runs for 4th wkt
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Fri 03 Mar 2017, 21:55
In that 1st Test, Aus won by 333 runs, which is the largest win by runs where the winning margin exceeded all 4 completed totals made in the match.
Can you name the other 2 Tests where the winning margin was over 300 runs but all 4 completed totals were less than 300.
Winning margin over 300 runs with all 4 completed totals under 300:
?
?
333 runs – Aus (280 & 285) bt Ind (105 & 107), Pune, 2016-17
Can you name the other 2 Tests where the winning margin was over 300 runs but all 4 completed totals were less than 300.
Winning margin over 300 runs with all 4 completed totals under 300:
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333 runs – Aus (280 & 285) bt Ind (105 & 107), Pune, 2016-17
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Re: Trivia 2017
by Bradman Fri 03 Mar 2017, 23:24
I'm not sure I understand. If you mean the winning margin was larger than any of the four completed innings there would have to be a shitload. But do you mean four all out totals?
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Sat 04 Mar 2017, 01:38
JGK wrote:First test of 99 Frankie
JGK wrote:The other Boxing Day Test in 96
Aye x 2.
Bradman wrote:I'm not sure I understand. If you mean the winning margin was larger than any of the four completed innings there would have to be a shitload. But do you mean four all out totals?
All 4 innings in the match were all out (no declarations or unfinished innings) and the winning runs margin was larger than all 4 innings.
Winning margin over 300 runs with all 4 completed totals under 300:
312 runs – Aus (269 & 261) bt WI (167 & 51), Port-of-Spain, 1998-99
328 runs – SAf (235 & 259) bt Ind (100 & 66), Durban, 1996-97
333 runs – Aus (280 & 285) bt Ind (105 & 107), Pune, 2016-17
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Fri 31 Mar 2017, 10:22
In the final Test in the recent Ind v Aus series, the Indian openers batted on all 4 days of the Test:
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
There has never been an instance of 2 openers batting on every day of a 5 day Test, but there were 2 other instances emulating Rahul and Vijay above in a 4 day Test. When?
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
?
?
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
There has never been an instance of 2 openers batting on every day of a 5 day Test, but there were 2 other instances emulating Rahul and Vijay above in a 4 day Test. When?
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
?
?
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Fri 31 Mar 2017, 21:29
I'm out of internet range for the weekend shortly.
Clues:
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
? - 1900s before WWI
? - Last 3rd of 1900s
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
Clues:
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
? - 1900s before WWI
? - Last 3rd of 1900s
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
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Re: Trivia 2017
by WideWally Sat 01 Apr 2017, 02:39
It is not one that you mentioned, but I believe it occurred in this game -
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208
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Re: Trivia 2017
by JGK Sat 01 Apr 2017, 02:48
WideWally wrote:It is not one that you mentioned, but I believe it occurred in this game -
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208
Howstat don't count rest days whereas it isn't clear whether Skully's stats do.
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Sun 02 Apr 2017, 07:27
No.JGK wrote:Tancred and Shalders (if you include a rest day)
Aye.WideWally wrote:It is not one that you mentioned, but I believe it occurred in this game -
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208
Skully's stat's do not.JGK wrote:WideWally wrote:It is not one that you mentioned, but I believe it occurred in this game -
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208
Howstat don't count rest days whereas it isn't clear whether Skully's stats do.
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
SAf v Eng, Durban(5), 1930-31 D (4-day Test)
Openers – IJ Siedle/B Mitchell
CoP Day 1: SAf (1st match innings) 32-0
CoP Day 2: SAf (1st match inns) 252ao
CoP Day 3: SAf (3rd match inns) 3-0
? - Between 1975 and 1990
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
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Re: Trivia 2017
by JGK Sun 02 Apr 2017, 09:30
skully wrote:I'm out of internet range for the weekend shortly.
Clues:
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
? - 1900s before WWI
? - Last 3rd of 1900s
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
skully wrote:No.JGK wrote:Tancred and Shalders (if you include a rest day)Aye.WideWally wrote:It is not one that you mentioned, but I believe it occurred in this game -
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208Skully's stat's do not.JGK wrote:WideWally wrote:It is not one that you mentioned, but I believe it occurred in this game -
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=0208
Howstat don't count rest days whereas it isn't clear whether Skully's stats do.
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
SAf v Eng, Durban(5), 1930-31 D (4-day Test)
Openers – IJ Siedle/B Mitchell
CoP Day 1: SAf (1st match innings) 32-0
CoP Day 2: SAf (1st match inns) 252ao
CoP Day 3: SAf (3rd match inns) 3-0
? - Between 1975 and 1990
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
Classic skully (and WW)
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Re: Trivia 2017
by lardbucket Sun 02 Apr 2017, 09:49
LOL.
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Sun 02 Apr 2017, 09:49
Hehehe, oops. It was one of those World Wars.
Mea Culpa.
Mea Culpa.
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Re: Trivia 2017
by skully Sun 02 Apr 2017, 09:50
2 openers batting on every day of a 4 day Test:
SAf v Eng, Durban(5), 1930-31 D (4-day Test)
Openers – IJ Siedle/B Mitchell
CoP Day 1: SAf (1st match innings) 32-0
CoP Day 2: SAf (1st match inns) 252ao
CoP Day 3: SAf (3rd match inns) 3-0
? - Between 1975 and 1990
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
SAf v Eng, Durban(5), 1930-31 D (4-day Test)
Openers – IJ Siedle/B Mitchell
CoP Day 1: SAf (1st match innings) 32-0
CoP Day 2: SAf (1st match inns) 252ao
CoP Day 3: SAf (3rd match inns) 3-0
? - Between 1975 and 1990
Ind v Aus, Dharamsala, 2016-17 (5-day Test/lasted 4 days)
Openers – KL Rahul/M Vijay
CoP Day1: Ind (2nd match inns) 0-0
CoP Day 2: Ind (2nd match inns) 248-6
CoP Day 3: Ind (4th match inns) 19-0
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Re: Trivia 2017
by horace Sun 02 Apr 2017, 23:47
skully wrote:Hehehe, oops. It was one of those World Wars.
Mea Culpa.
Your new signature?
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