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Post by Lindsay no.2 Thu 29 Mar 2018, 19:08

Can't see the Aus batsmen faring well. The two scary players (from an oppo bowling point of view) are gone and it'll be hard for a replacement to walk in and do well surely?

Watch out for the bowlers though. They may be smarting from the inference they must have known/encouraged the ball tampering and therefore keen to show the world they don't need outside help to knock teams over.

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Post by beamer Thu 29 Mar 2018, 19:10

Yeah, for NFL followers I’ll offer the Tom Brady parallel... on both occasions when he and those around him were involved in major cheating scandals (Spygate and Deflategate), he responded by producing pretty much the best season of his career, as if to say “Told you I didn’t need to cheat to be the best”...

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Post by Fred Nerk Fri 30 Mar 2018, 06:26

Chad Sayers has been presented with his Oz cap and will play in place of Starc. The rest of the team remains unannounced.

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Post by horace Fri 30 Mar 2018, 06:31

Congrats to Bicky.
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Post by Fred Nerk Fri 30 Mar 2018, 06:38

Hopefully the game is not a total train-wreck and if it is he gets another shot sometime. But I wouldn't put the house on either

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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Mar 2018, 07:09

Is Starc injured?


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Post by tricycle Fri 30 Mar 2018, 07:13

lardbucket wrote:Is Starc injured?

Not as effective without reverse swing Wink

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Post by horace Fri 30 Mar 2018, 07:33

Calf complaint has been restricting him, so guess that is the issue.

Hope Second and Bicky open the bowling. If the game last three days, it would be good to see Second star.
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Post by embee Fri 30 Mar 2018, 07:37

Sayers wasnt selected in the original squad because Bird was the replacement for Haze and Richo was to be the replacement for Starc or 2nd 

NSP forget the shit they spin to players 

Well done to Dolly on the debut 

Sad about the occasion
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Post by embee Fri 30 Mar 2018, 08:36

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Given that pitch conditions in South Africa are expected to be similar to those in Australia, uncapped Western Australia quick Jhye Richardson was named as back-up to pace pair Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins because he consistently bowls at more than 140kph.


Sayers does not fit that bill, but is considered a seam option should Australia's top-ranked Test bowler Josh Hazlewood break down.
However, Tasmania's Jackson Bird is also viewed as a like-for-like replacement for Hazlewood and was part of Australia's Test touring teams to India and Bangladesh last year, as well as an inclusion for the fourth Ashes Test at the MCG when Starc was injured, and was therefore preferred for South Africa.
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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Mar 2018, 08:38

Teams finalised?

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Post by taipan Fri 30 Mar 2018, 08:39

SA win toss and bat
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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Mar 2018, 08:58

Declaration is expected at 3-590 shortly after tea tomorrow.

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Post by Nath Fri 30 Mar 2018, 09:07

lardbucket wrote:Is Starc injured?


yes.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mitchell-starc-stress-fractures-leg-injury-australia-south-africa-fourth-test/2018-03-30
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Post by Guest Fri 30 Mar 2018, 09:27

lardbucket wrote:Declaration is expected at 3-590 shortly after tea tomorrow.
I'd be more concerned as an Aus fan if you guys had batter first as without Warner and Smith and with other things on the mind it had the recipe for all out before lunch.

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Post by horace Fri 30 Mar 2018, 09:39

Faff was saving the need for ticket refunds.

In a sidenote it is nice to see the unusual sight of an Oz xi where every State has a representative.
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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Mar 2018, 09:45

Nath wrote:
lardbucket wrote:Is Starc injured?


yes.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mitchell-starc-stress-fractures-leg-injury-australia-south-africa-fourth-test/2018-03-30

Thank you. A sensible answer.

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Post by ojitarian Fri 30 Mar 2018, 09:48

lardbucket wrote:Declaration is expected at 3-590 shortly after tea tomorrow.
We’re going to take 3 wickets?

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Post by Big Dog Fri 30 Mar 2018, 09:59

Sayers looks very ordinary. Struggling to get the ball above 130 Koh
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Post by MoH Fri 30 Mar 2018, 10:03

I was about to say it looks a tidy opening spell from him and he's unluckily not to have taken a wicket! I see his bowling is categorised as rm on cricinfo. I know he's not the quickest but that's a bit unfair isn't it?

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Post by Big Dog Fri 30 Mar 2018, 10:09

MoH wrote:I was about to say it looks a tidy opening spell from him and he's unluckily not to have taken a wicket! I see his bowling is categorised as rm on cricinfo. I know he's not the quickest but that's a bit unfair isn't it?

Not much variety. Strikes me as just another military medium pacer but i'll concede its early days yet.
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Post by Basil Fri 30 Mar 2018, 10:36

Markram is going to be some player.
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Post by Basil Fri 30 Mar 2018, 10:37

Big Dog wrote:
MoH wrote:I was about to say it looks a tidy opening spell from him and he's unluckily not to have taken a wicket! I see his bowling is categorised as rm on cricinfo. I know he's not the quickest but that's a bit unfair isn't it?

Not much variety. Strikes me as just another military medium pacer but i'll concede its early days yet.

I can see him doing a job in England with the Readers ball.
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Post by beamer Fri 30 Mar 2018, 10:51

Basil wrote:Markram is going to be some player.
Yeah, we’re perhaps lucky they didn’t pick him last summer. Although starting your Test career in English conditions isn’t ideal, and could have set him back. Perhaps they realised that.

The Test game worldwide is desperate for good openers, to counter a number of decent new ball pairings. Putting faith in young players can pay off.

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Post by taipan Fri 30 Mar 2018, 10:53

beamer wrote:
Basil wrote:Markram is going to be some player.
Yeah, we’re perhaps lucky they didn’t pick him last summer. Although starting your Test career in English conditions isn’t ideal, and could have set him back. Perhaps they realised that.

The Test game worldwide is desperate for good openers, to counter a number of decent new ball pairings. Putting faith in young players can pay off.

I was calling for him to play. Kuhn was a bizarre selection.

I think Graeme Smith was 22 on his first England tour and he seemed to handle it okay.
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