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Post by whitburn on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 06:31

Who moves over to allow Stokes back? Nightclub bully is one of our best 11 so we need him back, but at the expense of who I Y O?

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Re: You can't drop Woakes so who goes?

Post by beamer on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 12:02

Well, it will be a case of horses for courses. If Trent Bridge is going to seam we could even go in without the spinner.

Otherwise, Broad has probably been the least effective of our bowlers (not that heís been bad, just the bar is pretty high) this series but surely wonít be benched on his home ground, so young Curran could be the temporary fall guy, but itís a nice problem to have. Iíd be surprised if Stokes is mentally and physically ready for next week whatever the outcome, so itís probably one for later in the series at the earliest.

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Post by Nath on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 12:04

whitburn wrote:Who moves over to allow Stokes back? Nightclub bully is one of our best 11 so we need him back, but at the expense of who I Y O?

the new guy.
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Post by beamer on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 12:06

Nath wrote:
whitburn wrote:Who moves over to allow Stokes back? Nightclub bully is one of our best 11 so we need him back, but at the expense of who I Y O?

the new guy.
Pope, you mean? Move Woakes up to 4? Wink

We could have a complete team of all-rounders before long. Jimmy needs to work on his batting to stay in there...

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Post by taipan on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 12:23

beamer wrote:Well, it will be a case of horses for courses. If Trent Bridge is going to seam we could even go in without the spinner.

Otherwise, Broad has probably been the least effective of our bowlers (not that heís been bad, just the bar is pretty high) this series but surely wonít be benched on his home ground, so young Curran could be the temporary fall guy, but itís a nice problem to have. Iíd be surprised if Stokes is mentally and physically ready for next week whatever the outcome, so itís probably one for later in the series at the earliest.

Agreed on Stokes mental state, but how can you actually tell?
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Post by beamer on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 12:30

taipan wrote:
beamer wrote:Well, it will be a case of horses for courses. If Trent Bridge is going to seam we could even go in without the spinner.

Otherwise, Broad has probably been the least effective of our bowlers (not that heís been bad, just the bar is pretty high) this series but surely wonít be benched on his home ground, so young Curran could be the temporary fall guy, but itís a nice problem to have. Iíd be surprised if Stokes is mentally and physically ready for next week whatever the outcome, so itís probably one for later in the series at the earliest.

Agreed on Stokes mental state, but how can you actually tell?
See if he does a Gazza when you tell him heís not playing? Wink

I donít know how much longer the trial is likely to last, if heís cleared though a 4th Test return looks most likely. Obviously any custodial sentence will rule him out for some time and cast doubt on his short to medium term future at least. If he gets a suspended/community sentence I donít expect we will see him again this summer or probably in the winter either - perhaps an agreement with Australia, given the Smith issue, that both sides will reattach nose to face in time for the World Cup and Ashes.

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Post by taipan on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 15:53

So it's not going to be Broad.
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Re: You can't drop Woakes so who goes?

Post by vilkrang on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 20:13

Quite right. For all his faults when he clicks he is probably the most devastating bowler in world cricket at the moment. 7 times he's got a 5fer in a single spell, can't be many active players who have done that. Would have done it again today if rain hadn't intervened.

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Post by beamer on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 20:18

And so close to being the first bowler to take three Test hat-tricks. (Well, that third ball wasnít actually that close, it went for four byes down the leg side... Laughing )

Thatís just what he does, for long spells he can look unthreatening, then when it clicks heís unplayable.

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Post by vilkrang on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 21:43

He's probably been my favourite England bowler since that spell at the Oval in 2009. The long periods of dross are more than made up for when he goes mental. It's exhilarating to watch when he's on song.

He often comes good in key moments of big series as well, big game player.

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Post by skully on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 23:44

That Sturat inswinger to castle Poonjabber was a cracker.
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Post by beamer on Mon 13 Aug 2018, 08:06

He has now moved into the top 10 of all time Test wicket takers... he and Anderson now have 977 between them.

Which pairs of bowlers have played together with a combined 1000 wickets to their name? Probably just Warne and McGrath, and Murali and Vaas, I would guess. Certainly not two seamers, given only Walsh and McGrath had previously reached the half-millennium themselves.

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Post by Basil on Mon 13 Aug 2018, 18:28

Stokes is not in the squad for TB, but could in theory be added after the verdict is known.
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