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Post by doremi Tue 29 Jan 2008, 16:07

Bullshit. ESPN not getting the cricket as contracted, wouldn't be CA's fault, and I doubt any court would convict them (unless Procter's judge). If anyone, the BCCI would have been sued for flouncing off. ESPN have a contract with almost every other cricket board other than the BCCI. Why they would pander to the people who have been rejecting their bids for TV coverage for some years, and upset the people who have been a very imprtant part of their income? Keeps making less sense every minute.
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Post by The One Tue 29 Jan 2008, 16:14

unless you like some subi-bashing of course

at the moment the only facts are this

1. aus have downgraded their charge from racial abuse to general abuse

2. bhajji has accepted he is guilt of non-racial abuse

all the rest is just speculation, incl threats and fines and possible pay-outs. aus and its players have come out looking much the poorer in this exchange

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Post by Ash Tue 29 Jan 2008, 16:19

there was no evidence and harbhajan was cleared - end of.
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Post by Batman Tue 29 Jan 2008, 16:26

It's just typical media windup.
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Post by eowyn Tue 29 Jan 2008, 16:41

EPSN probably could charge both sides, neither wants a massive lawsuit, both sides back off. It's all about money and it stinks.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Tue 29 Jan 2008, 16:44

What exactly is everybody crying about? Harbhajan was unfairly convicted and this unfairness was corrected on appeal.

The matter should be put to bed and everyone should group hug.
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Post by Makaveli Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:19

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:What exactly is everybody crying about? Harbhajan was unfairly convicted and this unfairness was corrected on appeal.

The matter should be put to bed and everyone should group hug.

Shhh stop talking sense, your getting in the way of some valuable 'subi' bashing.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:22

tac wrote:It seems that Sri Lanka were also considering pulling out if India did.

Who is the Chairman of SL cricket board, the 'Fat Count' himself .. remember how you pissed him off a few moons ago ? Twisted Evil Laughing
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Post by furriner Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:23

I thought you had b*****ed off Buckaroo? So is this the Buckaroo Returns preview?
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Post by Basil Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:24

tac wrote:was downgraded by the Australians due to financial pressure.

From the Age:

Cricket Australia feared India would pull out of the tour, and that broadcaster ESPN, which owns the lucrative contract to beam cricket from Australia into the subcontinent, would sue the board for a figure believed to be as high as $60 million. Cricket Australia told the players it could take a decade to recoup those losses.


BCCI and ESPN working together to get Harby off the hook. Nice.

I wonder what Channel 9's stance would be. Presumably their contract with Cricket Australia stipulates a particular number of matches to be televised.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:27

furriner wrote:I thought you had b*****ed off Buckaroo? So is this the Buckaroo Returns preview?

You want me to go ?
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Post by furriner Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:27

Yeah but I'm not sure about the suing bit; don't the lawyers make contracts to always have get out clauses? And where has the $60M figure come from? Lost revenues?
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Post by JB Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:27

I don't see how anyone could sue CA when it would be the Indians pulling out and not fulfilling their contract. I think it's all a load of twaddle.
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Post by furriner Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:27

*Buckaroo* wrote:
furriner wrote:I thought you had b*****ed off Buckaroo? So is this the Buckaroo Returns preview?

You want me to go ?

Question is, will you come back?
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Post by furriner Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:29

JB wrote:I don't see how anyone could sue CA when it would be the Indians pulling out and not fulfilling their contract. I think it's all a load of twaddle.

That being the most relevant point, which I naturally missed. Wouldn't all CA have to do is to send their players out to one game, and with the Indians missing, claim that they fulfilled their part of the contract?
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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:30

I don't think it's a question of 'suing' .. the contract stipulates that if under any circumstance the tour does not proceed as scheduled or is cancelled due to unavoidable circumstances then CA is obliged to refund ESPN to tune of $60 million or $XX million whichever is higher.
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Post by Makaveli Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:30

furriner wrote:Yeah but I'm not sure about the suing bit; don't the lawyers make contracts to always have get out clauses? And where has the $60M figure come from? Lost revenues?

It's all media cr@p, all sorts of rubbish will be churned out over the next few days, unless you here it from the horses mouth it's either total boll0x or a story with extra masala on top of it.
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Post by Makaveli Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:31

And i thought you got 'banned' buck? why the return?
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Post by JB Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:31

Well, if that's the case, then all CA has to do is sue the BCCI for damages incurred by the Indians pulling out.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:32

furriner wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:
furriner wrote:I thought you had b*****ed off Buckaroo? So is this the Buckaroo Returns preview?

You want me to go ?

Question is, will you come back?

I'm no more emotionally attached. I'm not a virgin anymore.
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Post by furriner Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:32

*Buckaroo* wrote:
furriner wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:
furriner wrote:I thought you had b*****ed off Buckaroo? So is this the Buckaroo Returns preview?

You want me to go ?

Question is, will you come back?

I'm no more emotionally attached. I'm not a virgin anymore.

Please, no details.
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Post by JB Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:34

The other thing I don't understand about all this, unless I've missed something, is why Harby has still been fined. Has he admitted to saying something? If the recordings don't contain anything Harby said, racist or otherwise, then how is there any proof of wrong-doing?
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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:34

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Post by *Buckaroo* Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:39

Makaveli wrote:And i thought you got 'banned' buck? why the return?

I should have saved the page on imageshack. For a moment I was like shattered that Dello could do that.

Eowyn had asked me what my real name was .. she doesn't know so I shouldn't call her by her real name. I typed out my real name and when I hit 'Send' I got message that 'You have been banned from the forum'.
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Post by eowyn Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:40

JB wrote:The other thing I don't understand about all this, unless I've missed something, is why Harby has still been fined. Has he admitted to saying something? If the recordings don't contain anything Harby said, racist or otherwise, then how is there any proof of wrong-doing?

Because he was found guilty of a lesser charge, abusive language not racism.
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