Viva Fidel!

Castro retires. Link.

He's done well to step down on his own terms after surviving 637 assassination attempts.

The United States will help the people of Cuba realise the blessings of liberty

Excuse me whilst I go barf somewhere....

JKLever wrote:

The United States will help the people of Cuba realise the blessings of liberty

Excuse me whilst I go barf somewhere....

Too right JKL. It detracts from the article really. I loathe that c*nt, possibly more than anyone on the planet, I'd love to mollywhop that little sh!t.

Why he thinks that it was only Castro who didn't want anything to do with the Yanks is beyond me.... his successor will no doubt have a similar stancepoint.

The United States will help the people of Cuba realise the blessings of liberty

...and then we'll think about realising those blessings on our own black and hispanic population."

I like the way they say "help". Just like they've tried to "help" Cuba embrace democracy by imposing the strictest economic sanctions in the world in an effort to starve the people into revolt.

You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:I like the way they say "help". Just like they've tried to "help" Cuba embrace democracy by imposing the strictest economic sanctions in the world in an effort to starve the people into revolt.

You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

Agreed.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:
You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

Although one might say that allowing Soviet nukes there might have been tantamount to wishing your country was flattened.

JKLever wrote:Although one might say that allowing Soviet nukes there might have been tantamount to wishing your country was flattened.

Agreed.

They had no choice but to allow Soviet nukes there. Cuba's sugar industry was subsidised by the Soviets. Without it they would have been economically crippled. When the Soviets decided to move the missiles there, they couldn't refuse.

It wasn't even Russia's fault anyway. They were only responding to the US doing exactly the same thing - shipping nukes to the Soviet union's doorstep, Turkey.

JKLever wrote:

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:
You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

Although one might say that allowing Soviet nukes there might have been tantamount to wishing your country was flattened.

I'm not a fan of Castro is any way, but it'd have been suicide not to stay in the USSR's good books, considering the USA stance on Cuba.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:They had no choice but to allow Soviet nukes there. Cuba's sugar industry was subsidised by the Soviets. Without it they would have been economically crippled. When the Soviets decided to move the missiles there, they couldn't refuse.

It wasn't even Russia's fault anyway. They were only responding to the US doing exactly the same thing - shipping nukes to the Soviet union's doorstep, Turkey.

Yup.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

shows how much he cared for his own people. his ego was bigger than the country

another dictator gone (almost), time to rejoice. hopefully he will die soon so that cuba can mend its relations with america and the wider world

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:They had no choice but to allow Soviet nukes there. Cuba's sugar industry was subsidised by the Soviets. Without it they would have been economically crippled. When the Soviets decided to move the missiles there, they couldn't refuse.

It wasn't even Russia's fault anyway. They were only responding to the US doing exactly the same thing - shipping nukes to the Soviet union's doorstep, Turkey.

Fair dos but it was more a comment on 'you've got to admire someone who stood up to the USA'

Don't really admire someone who puts his own country in such obvious danger under any circumstances. Castro was a revolutionary, not sure how much so called 'love' for his own people there really was.

The One wrote:

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

shows how much he cared for his own people. his ego was bigger than the country

There are certain people who argue that but I tend to disagree.

Cuba has first world, first class education and health services, including better literacy and mortality rates than the US. Despite the US crippling it's economy, Cuba has achieved steady economic growth year on year and almost eradicated extreme hunger and poverty.

JKLever wrote:

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:They had no choice but to allow Soviet nukes there. Cuba's sugar industry was subsidised by the Soviets. Without it they would have been economically crippled. When the Soviets decided to move the missiles there, they couldn't refuse.

It wasn't even Russia's fault anyway. They were only responding to the US doing exactly the same thing - shipping nukes to the Soviet union's doorstep, Turkey.

Fair dos but it was more a comment on 'you've got to admire someone who stood up to the USA'

Don't really admire someone who puts his own country in such obvious danger under any circumstances. Castro was a revolutionary, not sure how much so called 'love' for his own people there really was.

Well, he was forced to. That's the point. It was either do what he did or lose the support of the Soviets and watch his people starve and risk invasion by the US...

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:

The One wrote:

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

shows how much he cared for his own people. his ego was bigger than the country

There are certain people who argue that but I tend to disagree.

Cuba has first world, first class education and health services, including better literacy and mortality rates than the US. Despite the US crippling it's economy, Cuba has achieved steady economic growth year on year and almost eradicated extreme hunger and poverty.

Yep. most people don't have a lot, but they have the necessities . . . unlike India.

tac wrote:Yep. most people don't have a lot, but they have the necessities . . . unlike India.

Bucky is a closet Commie Bastard!!!!

Not really, I just want to overthrow the present system on whatever bandwagon that comes my way. Yes kinda desperate.

You not a fanof democracy Bucky? Or just the Republicans?

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:

The One wrote:

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:You've got to admire someone who resists the US for so long, despite his people being under extreme economic pressure.

shows how much he cared for his own people. his ego was bigger than the country

There are certain people who argue that but I tend to disagree.

Cuba has first world, first class education and health services, including better literacy and mortality rates than the US. Despite the US crippling it's economy, Cuba has achieved steady economic growth year on year and almost eradicated extreme hunger and poverty.

and no one has real freedom. industrial or free range - a chicken in a farm is still the farmer's b*tch

Democracy .. there is no democracy anywhere except for the Scandinavian countries .. and that too is iffy now. People do not realize what kind of massive benefits will come their way once the present cabal is routed.

People of Middle-East, people and children of Iraq who have suffered in silence for so long, Palestine, Africa will heave a sigh of relief once the present cabal is demolished. But for that to happen there needs to be an incident that unsettles this cabal .. takes them by surprise. Once that happens, there is a core group of really desperate people who will rip the heart out of this treacherous deceit.

But a spark is needed, something to ignite the charged environment. Some individual, a massive natural disaster on continental United States .. anything.

*Buckaroo* wrote:

great anthem, love it

*Buckaroo* wrote:a massive natural disaster on continental United States .. anything.

how charming