Re: All Time Test Cricket's XI - Greatest Basketcases...

by tac Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:03

Brass Monkey wrote:
tac wrote:
Bit low to pick on someone with a mental illness . . .

Aw-haw-haw

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:05

Oooh someone told me yesterday...

by tac Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:07

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by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:09

Til now, I always got by on my own

by freddled gruntbuggly Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:09

tac wrote:
freddled gruntbuggly wrote:Surely Slats fits the bill - there have been few greater headcases out on the field.
Bit low to pick on someone with a mental illness . . .

*shrug*
Well, where I come from, that's what 'basket case' means. And I'm not exactly slagging him off here, just suggesting that he belongs in this exalted company. He was a damn good opener, and could have been even better without the problems or with a bit more support and understanding.

by Guest Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:12

Don't quite understand why Thorpey's getting in. 100 tests, average 45 in an era of great bowling, also an excellent ODI man.

by Fred Nerk Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:17

I think whoever put Thorpe's name up was suggesting that Graham didn't enjoy perfect mental health for the entire length of his career. That's my understanding of 'basket case', but it seems there are others.

by JKLever Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:19

Did Thorpe have mental problems?

Thought it was just the strain of shagging around too much?

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:21

He had depression because he battered his own head in and his wife used his kids as a weapon.

Like jack, he probably listened to this a lot

by Batman Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:23

Perhaps we should filter this down and exclude people who had personal and mental issues get in the way and restrict people who played close to 100 tests and lost focus due to personal issues. So if we take Thorpe, Thres and Slater off and stick to potentials who got their heads stuck in their arses long after some success what XI should we get? People who were hyped and weren't good enough, attitude losers?

by Fred Nerk Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:23

I always thought getting my head kicked in would sound exactly like that....

by Batman Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:28

Shahid Afridi
Herschelle Gibbs
Sanjay Manjrekar
Graeme Hick
Vinod Kambli
?????
Nayan Mongia
Abdul Razzaq
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shoaib Akhter
Harmisson

What about Klusener? Can he be called a basket case? Was all attitdue, reportedly selfish and he definately underachieved. He had all the markings of a great all-rounder.....

by Batman Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:29

Anyone feels the list can have better candidates can put up a list with their players at correct spots [openers, one drop, wk, all rounder, pacer, spinner etc]

by freddled gruntbuggly Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:30

Tim Zoehrer had the talent to be one of the best 'keepers Australia's produced. Don't know exactly what went wrong, but it went wrong very, very badly.

by tac Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:31

Batman wrote:Shahid Afridi
Herschelle Gibbs
Sanjay Manjrekar
Graeme Hick
Vinod Kambli
?????
Nayan Mongia
Abdul Razzaq
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shoaib Akhter
Harmisson

What about Klusener? Can he be called a basket case? Was all attitdue, reportedly selfish and he definately underachieved. He had all the markings of a great all-rounder.....

Ramps would fill that team out nicely . . . Mo Matthews was a bit "special" as wel . . .

by Batman Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:39

Azhar Mehmood.....
Aamir Sohail.....
Mohammad Sami [Too much crap and too much hype]
Danish Kaneria
Greg Blewett [???]
Carl Hooper [Always a feeling he didn't do justice to his potential]

by Red Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:41

freddled gruntbuggly wrote:Tim Zoehrer had the talent to be one of the best 'keepers Australia's produced. Don't know exactly what went wrong, but it went wrong very, very badly.

Allegedly thieving from teammates' lockers.

Having read a bit of cricket history, the very talented Sid Barnes probably also deserves a mention here according to his peers.

by taipan Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:45

Clearly Dickie Bird would have to umpire the match

by tac Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:46

Softy McDermott and Chris Old had a bit of trouble with the heart strings . . .

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:47

tac wrote:Softy McDermott ... had a bit of trouble with the heart strings . . .

So I've heard, I just thought it was more body problems?

by freddled gruntbuggly Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:50

Brass Monkey wrote:
tac wrote:Softy McDermott ... had a bit of trouble with the heart strings . . .
So I've heard, I just thought it was more body problems?

It was, but some people won't accept that. Apparently Queenslanders are supposed to keep going until they drop dead on the pitch, or they're 'soft'.

by tac Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:53

Brass Monkey wrote:
tac wrote:Softy McDermott ... had a bit of trouble with the heart strings . . .

So I've heard, I just thought it was more body problems?

In Oldies case, i've heard he was troubled with psychosomatic illness . . . so he might have found it hard to cope with the excitement and stress of test cricket . . . which is a shame. Billy McSofty was just a softy . . . like Big Carl.

by Brass Monkey Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:54

freddled gruntbuggly wrote:
It was, but some people won't accept that. Apparently Queenslanders are supposed to keep going until they drop dead on the pitch, or they're 'soft'.

Oh right, fair enough. I just remember he was the premier boy when I nearish the start of time I was watching cricket - with the fat wanker anyway. I remember him breaking down in an Ashes Test after bowling with some real fire. Shame Bruce Reid doesn't get the same treatment, because he'd be double soft if that's the case.

by Henry Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:54

Surely the former Windies player Leslie Hylton was cricket's biggest head case? He murdered his wife in 1955.

by tac Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:55

Henry wrote:Surely the former Windies player Leslie Hylton was cricket's biggest head case? He murdered his wife in 1955.

Maybe she deserved it?

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