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Is Sidebottom the best fast bowler in world alongwith Steyn?
How good is Sidebottom?
SG- Number of posts : 12806
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Is Clark not even a contender?
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I'd go with Steyn, Clark, Sidebottom, and Lee in that order at the moment.
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SiBo has been bowling in very seamer friendly conditions.
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As far as I remember Clark has mostly got flat decks to bowl on atleast during current season.Rob I wrote:SiBo has been bowling in very seamer friendly conditions.
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Rob I wrote:SiBo has been bowling in very seamer friendly conditions.
Except for in Sri Lanka where he bowled beautifully and should have had a stack load of wickets if it wasn't for so many dropped catches off his bowling.
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Red, the queen of the knee jerk reaction.
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I really don't know why batsmen don't stand 2 feet out of their crease when facing Clark. Fine bowler and all, but he's a bit of a trundler.
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I really don't know why batsmen don't stand 2 feet out of their crease when facing Clark
phurt - it just makes it further back to the sheds.
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Henry wrote:I really don't know why batsmen don't stand 2 feet out of their crease when facing Clark. Fine bowler and all, but he's a bit of a trundler.
And when SRT tried that, Gilly stood up to the wicket . . . end result . . . SRT gawwwwnnn!
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No.
But he's a decent left arm swing bowler. Always handy for any attack.
much rather he was part of an attack rather than leading it at the moment
But he's a decent left arm swing bowler. Always handy for any attack.
much rather he was part of an attack rather than leading it at the moment
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Sidearse was outbowled at Old Trafford by Jimmy Anderson - so Jimmy Anderson must be the best bowler in the world.
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Personally I think he must be getting there... he's always a threat.
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Got to do it against the better sides too, will be the argument levelled against him.
Incredibly unlucky against SL with all the drops, and better against India than his figures suggest (he as good as nearly won us the 1st test) I guess the SA series will tell us more.
Incredibly unlucky against SL with all the drops, and better against India than his figures suggest (he as good as nearly won us the 1st test) I guess the SA series will tell us more.
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Funnily enough, 3 of the top 4 JAMODI bowlers (on the carp rankings anyway) are Kiwis:
Name
Country
1 D.L. Vettori NZ
2 N.W. Bracken AUS
3 S.E. Bond NZ
4 K.D. Mills NZ
4 W.P.U.J.C. Vaas SL
6 A. Nel SA
7 D.B. Powell WI
8 J.E. Taylor WI
9 B. Lee AUS
10 Shahid Afridi PAK
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1 D.L. Vettori NZ
2 N.W. Bracken AUS
3 S.E. Bond NZ
4 K.D. Mills NZ
4 W.P.U.J.C. Vaas SL
6 A. Nel SA
7 D.B. Powell WI
8 J.E. Taylor WI
9 B. Lee AUS
10 Shahid Afridi PAK
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Latest Test rankings for batting:
Name
Country
Rating
Career Best
1 M.E.K. Hussey AUS 921 921 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
2 R.T. Ponting AUS 905 942 v England, 01/12/2006
3 K.C. Sangakkara SL 893 938 v England, 01/12/2007
4 Mohammad Yousuf PAK 880 933 v West Indies, 27/11/2006
5 J.H. Kallis SA 877 935 v New Zealand, 18/11/2007
6 M.L. Hayden AUS 851 935 v England, 07/11/2002
7 S. Chanderpaul WI 832 838 v South Africa, 02/01/2008
8 D.P.M.D. Jayawardena SL 810 844 v West Indies, 22/03/2008
9 Younis Khan PAK 799 856 v England, 04/08/2006
10 K.P. Pietersen ENG 750 909 v West Indies, 28/05/2007
11 M.J. Clarke AUS 737 761 v India, 26/12/2007
12 A. Symonds AUS 714 714 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
13 G.C. Smith SA 712 756 v New Zealand, 26/03/2004
14 S.R. Tendulkar IND 704 898 v Zimbabwe, 21/02/2002
15 R. Dravid IND 701 892 v Pakistan, 16/03/2005
16 A.J. Strauss ENG 687 769 v South Africa, 13/01/2005
17 V. Sehwag IND 681 854 v South Africa, 28/11/2004
18 S.C. Ganguly IND 674 713 v Australia, 10/12/1999
19 V.V.S. Laxman IND 672 753 v Australia, 02/01/2004
20 A.N. Cook ENG 669 711 v Sri Lanka, 18/12/2007
21 I.R. Bell ENG 654 684 v Sri Lanka, 01/12/2007
Name
Country
Rating
Career Best
1 M.E.K. Hussey AUS 921 921 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
2 R.T. Ponting AUS 905 942 v England, 01/12/2006
3 K.C. Sangakkara SL 893 938 v England, 01/12/2007
4 Mohammad Yousuf PAK 880 933 v West Indies, 27/11/2006
5 J.H. Kallis SA 877 935 v New Zealand, 18/11/2007
6 M.L. Hayden AUS 851 935 v England, 07/11/2002
7 S. Chanderpaul WI 832 838 v South Africa, 02/01/2008
8 D.P.M.D. Jayawardena SL 810 844 v West Indies, 22/03/2008
9 Younis Khan PAK 799 856 v England, 04/08/2006
10 K.P. Pietersen ENG 750 909 v West Indies, 28/05/2007
11 M.J. Clarke AUS 737 761 v India, 26/12/2007
12 A. Symonds AUS 714 714 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
13 G.C. Smith SA 712 756 v New Zealand, 26/03/2004
14 S.R. Tendulkar IND 704 898 v Zimbabwe, 21/02/2002
15 R. Dravid IND 701 892 v Pakistan, 16/03/2005
16 A.J. Strauss ENG 687 769 v South Africa, 13/01/2005
17 V. Sehwag IND 681 854 v South Africa, 28/11/2004
18 S.C. Ganguly IND 674 713 v Australia, 10/12/1999
19 V.V.S. Laxman IND 672 753 v Australia, 02/01/2004
20 A.N. Cook ENG 669 711 v Sri Lanka, 18/12/2007
21 I.R. Bell ENG 654 684 v Sri Lanka, 01/12/2007
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And the bowlers:
1 M. Muralidaran SL 897 920 v Bangladesh, 11/07/2007
2 D.W. Steyn SA 892 897 v India, 03/04/2008
3 S.R. Clark AUS 856 856 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
4 B. Lee AUS 787 795 v India, 24/01/2008
5 M. Ntini SA 777 863 v India, 26/12/2006
6 R.J. Sidebottom ENG 719 724 v New Zealand, 15/05/2008
7 W.P.U.J.C. Vaas SL 709 800 v India, 02/12/2005
8 A. Kumble IND 708 859 v Sri Lanka, 26/01/1994
9 Shoaib Akhtar PAK 684 855 v New Zealand, 26/12/2003
10 S.E. Bond NZ 675 778 v West Indies, 09/03/2006
11 M.S. Panesar ENG 662 721 v West Indies, 15/06/2007
12 C.D. Collymore WI 634 700 v India, 02/07/2006
13 M.J. Hoggard ENG 624 795 v Sri Lanka, 28/05/2006
14 Zaheer Khan IND 619 689 v Pakistan, 26/11/2007
14 Mohammad Asif PAK 619 710 v South Africa, 26/01/2007
16 Danish Kaneria PAK 614 723 v England, 12/11/2005
17 A. Flintoff ENG 609 810 v Pakistan, 12/11/2005
18 Harbhajan Singh IND 608 765 v New Zealand, 12/12/2002
19 D.L. Vettori NZ 606 681 v Australia, 11/03/2000
20 C.S. Martin NZ 599 643 v England, 24/05/2004
1 M. Muralidaran SL 897 920 v Bangladesh, 11/07/2007
2 D.W. Steyn SA 892 897 v India, 03/04/2008
3 S.R. Clark AUS 856 856 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
4 B. Lee AUS 787 795 v India, 24/01/2008
5 M. Ntini SA 777 863 v India, 26/12/2006
6 R.J. Sidebottom ENG 719 724 v New Zealand, 15/05/2008
7 W.P.U.J.C. Vaas SL 709 800 v India, 02/12/2005
8 A. Kumble IND 708 859 v Sri Lanka, 26/01/1994
9 Shoaib Akhtar PAK 684 855 v New Zealand, 26/12/2003
10 S.E. Bond NZ 675 778 v West Indies, 09/03/2006
11 M.S. Panesar ENG 662 721 v West Indies, 15/06/2007
12 C.D. Collymore WI 634 700 v India, 02/07/2006
13 M.J. Hoggard ENG 624 795 v Sri Lanka, 28/05/2006
14 Zaheer Khan IND 619 689 v Pakistan, 26/11/2007
14 Mohammad Asif PAK 619 710 v South Africa, 26/01/2007
16 Danish Kaneria PAK 614 723 v England, 12/11/2005
17 A. Flintoff ENG 609 810 v Pakistan, 12/11/2005
18 Harbhajan Singh IND 608 765 v New Zealand, 12/12/2002
19 D.L. Vettori NZ 606 681 v Australia, 11/03/2000
20 C.S. Martin NZ 599 643 v England, 24/05/2004
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Amazing ... bizarre, even ... to see Roy at number 12 in the world.
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Bell @ 21 ... on the cusp of greatness (OTCOG)
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lardbucket wrote:Amazing ... bizarre, even ... to see Roy at number 12 in the world.
And ahead of SRT and Dravid.
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Dravid nowadays is nothing but a shadow of his former glorious self, while Tendulkar is miles away from his earlier avatar of consistency personified. I'm not surprised to see Symonds being ahead of both of them. He is currently in form of his life while both Tendulkar and Dravid are way past their best.JGK wrote:lardbucket wrote:Amazing ... bizarre, even ... to see Roy at number 12 in the world.
And ahead of SRT and Dravid.
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Has Paris not got his full ranking yet? Surprised that it went up again after he was pretty quiet in this Test.
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Ross wrote:Has Paris not got his full ranking yet? Surprised that it went up again after he was pretty quiet in this Test.
I think he has 1 or 2 tests left for his full ranking.
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Steyn, Clark, Lee.
Zaheer, Siders.
Zaheer, Siders.
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