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Post by DJ_Smerk Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:40

Worth the watch I feel, it's on right now! TURN OVER!
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Post by The One Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:43

is it pay-per-view?

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Post by DJ_Smerk Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:49

nope free.
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Post by JKLever Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:49

NSR there I think Smerkman.
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Post by LeFromage Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:50

I PVR'd it the other day. Haven't watched it yet. Probably will at some time in the future.
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Post by JKLever Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:51

I'm pretty sure they're on iplayer for anyone who has missed it (in the UK at least)
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Post by LeFromage Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:53

It's been repeated at least three times since it first aired earlier in the week. It's not like BBC 4 have much else on. Just wait a while and it'll come around again.
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Post by PeterCS Sun 08 Jun 2008, 00:53

JKLever wrote:I'm pretty sure they're Hansie's games are on iplayer for anyone who has missed it (in the UK at least)

Fixed.
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Post by DJ_Smerk Sun 08 Jun 2008, 01:14

PeterCS wrote:
JKLever wrote:I'm pretty sure they're Hansie's games are on iplayer for anyone who has missed it (in the UK at least)

Fixed.


You Bloody Hansie Pete! Wink
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Jun 2008, 07:28

I watched it too.
I must've misheard but I'm sure that twice they referred to Herschell Gibbs as a black player.
confused

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Post by spangler Sun 08 Jun 2008, 08:49

They referred to him as 'coloured'
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Jun 2008, 09:29

Is he?

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Post by spangler Sun 08 Jun 2008, 09:43

touch me and find out.
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Jun 2008, 09:47

I didn't know that.
Thanks.

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Post by Eric Air Emu Sun 08 Jun 2008, 09:59

The Danny Devito lookalike leather jacket man was good value as loathsome characters go- apparently he just rang Hansie out of the blue, having never had any sort of contact with him before and after one phone call pursuaded him to engineer a result. It was pretty obvious there was so much more going on behind the scenes than has been revealed.

Guess everything in the documentary is public record but it didn't paint a vey sympathetic picture of the man- abusing a position of such importance to a country trying to unite itself after apartheid and manipulating younger players. Think he's lucky that he was white and christian (not to mention now dead) that his reputation isn't more tarnished.

The D'Oliveira doccy was a good one as well. Apparently Alec Bedser who was on the infamous selection committee subsequently gave his services to a PR organisation for Apartheid. Deary me.
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Post by Red Sun 08 Jun 2008, 10:00

Demelza wrote:Is he?

Yes Gibbs is coloured.
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Post by Basil Sun 08 Jun 2008, 10:06

Eric Air Emu wrote:The D'Oliveira doccy was a good one as well. Apparently Alec Bedser who was on the infamous selection committee subsequently gave his services to a PR organisation for Apartheid. Deary me.

Colin Cowdrey was shown in a very poor light as well.
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Post by mynah Sun 08 Jun 2008, 17:57

How? (Didn't see it)
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Post by filosofee Sun 08 Jun 2008, 19:15

DJ_Smerk wrote:Worth the watch I feel, it's on right now! TURN OVER!

I don't have BBC4
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Post by filosofee Sun 08 Jun 2008, 19:17

Basil wrote:
Eric Air Emu wrote:The D'Oliveira doccy was a good one as well. Apparently Alec Bedser who was on the infamous selection committee subsequently gave his services to a PR organisation for Apartheid. Deary me.

Colin Cowdrey was shown in a very poor light as well.

Is this a new Dolly docu or the one from a few years ago? That one did draw a telling 1960's English cricket establishment picture.
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Post by JKLever Sun 08 Jun 2008, 20:35

filosofee wrote: That one did draw a telling 1960's English cricket establishment picture.

More like drew a telling picture of general attitudes around the world at that time. Not just in cricket.
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Post by Basil Mon 09 Jun 2008, 01:29

filosofee wrote:
Basil wrote:
Eric Air Emu wrote:The D'Oliveira doccy was a good one as well. Apparently Alec Bedser who was on the infamous selection committee subsequently gave his services to a PR organisation for Apartheid. Deary me.

Colin Cowdrey was shown in a very poor light as well.

Is this a new Dolly docu or the one from a few years ago? That one did draw a telling 1960's English cricket establishment picture.

Please enlighten me: what is a "telling 1960's English cricket establishment picture" particularly in the context of Peter Oborne's biography of Basil D'Oliveira
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