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Post by LeFromage Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:40

Ah. He's only a kid - 20 years old. 85 mph at 20 is handy enough. Be interesting to see if there's more in the tank.

Chris Jordan was mid-80s last season, but he can top 90mph now.

Not that pace is everything, as everyone always says. Glenn McGrath. Blah blah blah....


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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:44

Dello wrote:Ah. He's only a kid - 20 years old. 85 mph at 20 is handy enough. Be interesting to see if there's more in the tank.

Chris Jordan was mid-80s last season, but he can top 90mph now.

Not that pace is everything, as everyone always says. Glenn McGrath. Blah blah blah....

Not in my recent experience really. All the bowlers I've seen of recent years, in under 19 games, have bowled the same pace, or thereabouts.
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Post by JKLever Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:46

I can't remember the last teen England have produced who was 90+ mph

Finn, who i've got good hopes for in the long term was only 83-4
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:48

JKLever wrote:I can't remember the last teen England have produced who was 90+ mph

Finn, who i've got good hopes for in the long term was only 83-4

Steve Harmison. Simon Jones. Can't think anyone after them.
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Post by LeFromage Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:50

Stuart Meaker's only 19 and supposedly 90+mph.
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Post by JKLever Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:51

Dello wrote:Stuart Meaker's only 19 and supposedly 90+mph.

Aye, wives tale. Was a bit of a trundler in the U19's game I saw.
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Post by LeFromage Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:52

Essex win by 128 runs. In a T20 game.

Ouch.
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Post by JKLever Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:53

Dello wrote:Essex win by 128 runs. In a T20 game.

Ouch.

That'll be helping the run rate then...
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:55

Dello wrote:Essex win by 128 runs. In a T20 game.

Ouch.

Biggest T20 win ever apparently.
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Post by Basil Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:56

Worcs beat Danny's Saffies by 4 wickets. Too little too late!!
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:57

Basil wrote:Worcs beat Danny's Saffies by 4 wickets. Too little too late!!

It was over about 3 hours ago and all the Saffie might couldn't stop Moeen giving it some. Or, more embarassingly, Kabir.
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Post by LeFromage Tue 24 Jun 2008, 21:59

Moeen has about one good knock per season in him. And a comedy beard, so I kind of like him.
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Post by Basil Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:00

Brass Monkey wrote:
Basil wrote:Worcs beat Danny's Saffies by 4 wickets. Too little too late!!

It was over about 3 hours ago and all the Saffie might couldn't stop Moeen giving it some. Or, more embarassingly, Kabir.

Kabir has been scoring useful runs this year - after his ton in a warm-up game against Essex. About time Moeen and Steve Davies came to the party.
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Post by Basil Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:02

Dello wrote:Moeen has about one good knock per season in him. And a comedy beard, so I kind of like him.

He's better than that, but he's hardly been able to buy a run this season. Intelligent piece about him by Nick Knight in the Grauniad today.
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Post by JKLever Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:03

Basil wrote:
Dello wrote:Moeen has about one good knock per season in him. And a comedy beard, so I kind of like him.

He's better than that, but he's hardly been able to buy a run this season. Intelligent piece about him by Nick Knight in the Grauniad today.

I stopped reading when I got to the word 'Nick'

Poor old Knighty - fence sitter extraordinaire!
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Post by Basil Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:06

JKLever wrote:
Basil wrote:
Dello wrote:Moeen has about one good knock per season in him. And a comedy beard, so I kind of like him.

He's better than that, but he's hardly been able to buy a run this season. Intelligent piece about him by Nick Knight in the Grauniad today.

I stopped reading when I got to the word 'Nick'

Poor old Knighty - fence sitter extraordinaire!

Yep, putting the words "intelligent" "Nick" and "Knight" together in the same sentence did cause mild convulsions, but I think I'm over the worst.
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:08

Interesting read.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/24/1
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Post by LeFromage Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:08

I had to look it up just to see if it was true.

It wasn't.

Just Nick the Fence making excuses for an under-performing player and hinting that things could either way with his career.

He probably wrote it with a grey pen. On grey paper. Posted it to the editor in a grey envelope.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/24/1
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Post by PeterCS Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:19

What happened to Notts?!?!
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:21

Very Happy Aye, Nice the Fence is right. Surprised he could get work really - bland opinions and rarely can articulate his thoughts. Probably because they weren't going to be some wishy-washy, nice uncle type opinions.
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:23

A bit harsh, chaps.

Not exactly hard hitting stuff, and he had to finish it off with the obligatory reference to T20, but it was good to get a bit of background on a player I don't know a great deal about, and thought this was an interesting insight into a batsman's approach to his development.


Technically he is fine. The reason some may think he is not is that he looks a bit loose and languid. As with other stylish left-handers it is going to be frustrating when he wafts a catch to the slips but it is not so much a technical issue as a mental one. He is still addressing a few technical things with a few people but it is there that he should be careful. He is talking with a lot of people and consequently could get confused by too much advice. He is trying to get an answer to his whole game in one go rather than dealing with issues one at a time, which he must do if he is to overcome them quicker.
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Post by beamer Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:33

PeterCS wrote:What happened to Notts?!?!
Don't know really, it's all fallen apart after a good start. Still in with a shout though and would be some achievement to get through with three main bowlers away on England duty.

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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:34

beamer wrote:
PeterCS wrote:What happened to Notts?!?!
get through with three main bowlers away on England duty.

That's probably what's wrong with them!
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:38

beamer wrote:
PeterCS wrote:What happened to Notts?!?!
Don't know really, it's all fallen apart after a good start. Still in with a shout though and would be some achievement to get through with three main bowlers away on England duty.

Aye - it's crap batting that has let us down rather than the bowling mind.

Without Voges efforts (6 contributions of 40+ in 8 games I think), we'd have long since sunk without trace.
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Post by LeFromage Tue 24 Jun 2008, 23:41

And where's Nick Knight's in depth beige-a-thon as to why Bilal Shafayat has gone from being an ultra-talented, shoo-in for higher honours England under 19 captain to being indistinguishable from dog shit?

He's got a silly beard too. A link, perhaps?
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