Islam - what is it all about?

Weird...

Maybe the stoning of a 13-year-old rape victim doesn't bother them, but apparently this is quite outrageous...

this is like ground-hog day. i remember the saudis had objected to their team flag being displayed in some german brothels during the 2006 world cup. i wonder how the saudis found out about it

The One wrote:this is like ground-hog day. i remember the saudis had objected to their team flag being displayed in some german brothels during the 2006 world cup. i wonder how the saudis found out about it

doremi wrote:Good posts by trident.

And Vikas, I couldn't care less about the Congress. I know about the sikh riots because a part of my family spent a terrifying night as they saw Delhi burn. So posts about what the congress have done or not done doesn't really cut the mustard with me wrt to Gujarat and the recent Christian killings.

Are facts allowed to get in your way ? If so may I kindly direct you to the Nanvati Commision report on Gujrat riots (google it) ?

And to those who readily fall back on the trusty cliche "Ohh there will be few idiots every where" may I ask for a few names of those Islamic rulers in the subcontinent who can be called as the "torch bearers peace , justice secularism human rights ... which Islam stands for as per many here" ... should be atleast a few between Bin-Qasim and Pervez Mussharaf that is well over 1000 yrs of rule.

Doremi - You SHOULD care about the 'secular' politics that CON-gress is playing since it has set the stage for burning the society of religious lines. On one hand the hypocrites are calling for Bal Thackrey's arrest and blood for offering legal support to Sadhvi Pragnya Singh Thakur and on the other have nothing to say about Mulayam, Amar and Laloo supporting LeT's footsoldiers SIMI openly, nor about the fact that the Jamia University with Congress and Arjun Singh's blessings is giving legal help to terrorists caught in Delhi in the Jamia Nagar Encounter and preparing to counter their own Home ministery in the court over it......

If these are not double standards that lead to the ever widening gulf between the two principle religions for votebank then what is?

Like I said before we are no Secular people here thanks to people in power. Just a matter of time before the blood spills all over India in due course of time. I wouldn't be surprised if the next 2 decades actually saw India going the USSR way over regional, religious, caste and language based politics.

This thread just keeps getting better . . .

Batman wrote:Doremi - You SHOULD care about teh 'secular' politics that CON-gress is playing since it has set the stage for burning the society of religious lines. On one hand the hypopcrites are calling for Bal Thackrey's arrest and blood for offering legal support to Sadhvi Pragnya Singh Thakur and on the other have nothing to say about Mulayam, Amar and Laloo supporting LeT's footsoldiers SIMI openly, nor about the fact that the Jamia University with Congress and Arjun Singh's blessings is giving legal help to terrorists caught in Delhi in the Jamia Nagar Encounter and preparing to counter their own Home ministery in the court over it......

If these are not double standards that lead to the ever widening gulf between the two principle religions for votebank then what is?

Like I said before we are no Secular people here thanks to people in power. Just a matter of time before the blood spills all over India in due course of time. I wouldn't be surprised if the next 2 decades actually saw India going the USSR way over regional, religious, caste and language based politics.

...cripes...Vikas supports my view.

I am most curious about what SG feels that his pet political party that is ruling Delhi atm is supporting legally the very terrorists arrested from Delhi, by Delhi police. These are the ones who planned and carried out bomb blasts in Delhi twice last 3 years........and yet his party wants to give legal help to criminals who killed a top cop in the encounter and even have a judicial enquiry so that the terrorists can be proven 'innocent sudents' and the cops who risked life and limb to catch them can be framed for killing their own leader!

Don't think the man will ever see the ugly truth about the people who he fanatically supports buying their completely warped and demented ideas of 'Secularism'.......

Sad indeed.

sookender is a bitter middle class person who aspires to the caste status chandan clerarly enjoys

A Hindu monk was arrested on Wednesday by Indian police investigating a wave of bomb attacks that have killed more than 200 people this year.

The 36-year-old man, head of a Hindu monastery, was charged with conspiring in an attack on a predominantly Muslim town about 322 kilometres east of the port city of Mumbai.

The bombing, which took place in September, killed four people.

Police said the man Sudhakar Dwivedi, who often used the alias Swami Amritanand, was arrested in Kanpur, in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, about 965 kilometres away from scene of the blast in Malegaon.

Earlier this month four other Hindus, one of them a senior army officer, were arrested in connection with the Malegaon attack and a second bombing in Modasa, more than 320 miles north of Mumbai.

There have been bomb attacks this year in the major cities of Bangalore, New Delhi, and Jaipur.

For years, bombings in India have mostly been blamed by the authorities on Islamists seeking to foment hatred between the majority Hindus and minority Muslims.

Police have detained dozens of Muslims whom they suspected of involvement in the attacks.

- Reuters

ban tours of India...aah heck lets ban India totally...it is a dangerous country as well as being the epicentre of religious apartheid

So, horrie, are you stoning the first caste?

Ah, we've missed your puns, your lardness.

Horrie - The so called 'Hindu terrorists' are being investigated for just one incident that happened recently. The LeT's Islamic footsoldiers responsible for the rest have been arrested and enjoying special legal privileges atm by the facist ruling Govt. with an eye on the Muslim votes in the coming elections. But this time their fake secularism will backfire bigtime because the policies worked as long as Muslims voted in block in unity to the same people and Hindus voted differently always divided by Govts. in various caste based identities.

But the age old dangerous game of appeasement of the so called 'minorities' has reached an alarming flash point. It will finally unite the Hindus for their rights and identities in the coming years and the start of this backlash in this direction will be felt in the coming elections.

Congress will never learn what children are taught in fables at school that one cannot please everybody all the time. Not only will they lose out on their coveted Muslim votes but they will be drowned under the rising Hindu backlash. The Hindu anger and discontent that was slowly building up is now peaking and rising fast.

lardbucket wrote:So, horrie, are you stoning the first caste?

...heheheh...only before sacred swine

Going back to the original topic of stoning ..... reason why its still done is because thats what was approved and prescribed by the prophet. Like prophet like followers ....


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Re: Eternity's post.....

batman has been out-batmanned . . . .

Going back to the original topic of stoning
..... reason why its still done is because thats what was approved and
prescribed by the prophet. Like prophet like followers ....

It is true that one cannot judge a movement or religion by the acts of a few crazed fanatics on the outer fringes. A much fairer indication would be the degree to which such acts are condemned and perpetrators punished by mainstream leaders. If there have been any such reaction by Islamic leaders to the stoning atrocity, I haven't seen it.

tac wrote:batman has been out-batmanned . . . .

<slinks away into the shadows speechless.......>

eternity wrote:

doremi wrote:Good posts by trident.

And Vikas, I couldn't care less about the Congress. I know about the sikh riots because a part of my family spent a terrifying night as they saw Delhi burn. So posts about what the congress have done or not done doesn't really cut the mustard with me wrt to Gujarat and the recent Christian killings.

Are facts allowed to get in your way ? If so may I kindly direct you to the Nanvati Commision report on Gujrat riots (google it) ?

And to those who readily fall back on the trusty cliche "Ohh there will be few idiots every where" may I ask for a few names of those Islamic rulers in the subcontinent who can be called as the "torch bearers peace , justice secularism human rights ... which Islam stands for as per many here" ... should be atleast a few between Bin-Qasim and Pervez Mussharaf that is well over 1000 yrs of rule.

Ah yes, the Nanavati Commision, very credible source. Facts.

BTW, get ****** horrie.

Also this. Caught on camera.

doremi wrote:

eternity wrote:

doremi wrote:Good posts by trident.

And Vikas, I couldn't care less about the Congress. I know about the sikh riots because a part of my family spent a terrifying night as they saw Delhi burn. So posts about what the congress have done or not done doesn't really cut the mustard with me wrt to Gujarat and the recent Christian killings.

Are facts allowed to get in your way ? If so may I kindly direct you to the Nanvati Commision report on Gujrat riots (google it) ?

And to those who readily fall back on the trusty cliche "Ohh there will be few idiots every where" may I ask for a few names of those Islamic rulers in the subcontinent who can be called as the "torch bearers peace , justice secularism human rights ... which Islam stands for as per many here" ... should be atleast a few between Bin-Qasim and Pervez Mussharaf that is well over 1000 yrs of rule.

Ah yes, the Nanavati Commision, very credible source. Facts.

BTW, get ****** horrie.

ahh yes the Tehelka "story" which isnt even admissible by *ANY* court as evidence versus a commision whos head is a SC judge who conducted hearings (open to public BTW) over 6 years ... pffft

And ?


Batman , I take it that you werent aware of those things .. let me know if you want to know more about the great one.

mynah wrote:

Going back to the original topic of stoning
..... reason why its still done is because thats what was approved and
prescribed by the prophet. Like prophet like followers ....

It is true that one cannot judge a movement or religion by the acts of a few crazed fanatics on the outer fringes.

How many = "few" in your opinion ? 1 million 2 million ? How about I provide you evidence that spans 1000 years ( yes there is 3 Zeroes in there) would that be a fair indicator ? BTW those links in the previous post are acts perpetrated by the great one himself. Also would the Human rights records of about 50 odd Islamic countries starting from that paragon of peace and torch bearer of Islamic traditions - Paskistan -do ? Logic being if Islam = Religion of peace these countries should have a track record that would speak for itself.