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Post by Henry Thu 29 Jan 2009, 15:09

So did we ever find out- Was he killed? Did he die of natural causes? Did he kill himself? There never really seemed to be a definitive answer.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 29 Jan 2009, 15:24

Natural cause is the assumption since murder was ruled out.
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Post by rey Thu 29 Jan 2009, 15:26

The 11 man jury in Jamaica gave an open verdict - so yes it couldnt be proven either way if his death was accidental or something more sinister.
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Post by rey Thu 29 Jan 2009, 15:27

The verdict meant the 11-man jury was unable to decide if Mr Woolmer's death was an accident, murder or the result of natural causes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1570961/Open-verdict-in-Bob-Woolmer-inquest.html
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 29 Jan 2009, 15:29

thanks for the correction, i thought murder was ruled out

...very strange case.
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Post by Batman Thu 29 Jan 2009, 15:51

PlanetPakistan wrote:Natural cause is the assumption since murder was ruled out covered up.

Fixed!
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Post by mynah Thu 29 Jan 2009, 20:09

I've always been suspicious too - several "definite" conclusions that were not consistent with each other at all...
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Post by The One Thu 29 Jan 2009, 20:15

i dont think we will never know. anything other than natural causes could have far-reaching ramifications

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Post by Hass Fri 30 Jan 2009, 03:41

I'd say the people who believe Bob Woolmer died of natural causes are very few in number.

The histroy books might say the cause of death was "inconclusive" but they'll also mention that "murder" was an odds-on favourite.

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Post by SG Fri 30 Jan 2009, 03:55

Perhaps Sherlock Holmes could solve this mystery.

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Post by Zat Fri 30 Jan 2009, 04:05

Moriarty did it? Of course, the pieces fit...

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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 30 Jan 2009, 04:06

God bless his soul
very nice man, he would even answer my stupid question

I remember once i said something along the lines of " Bob what the heck are doing by opening the batting with Shoaib Malik?"

literally 2 days later Malik scored a match saving ton while opening the batting in SL...i just didn't bother to read the reply.
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Post by OP Tipping Fri 30 Jan 2009, 04:37

Terrible thing, terrible thing.
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Post by embee Fri 30 Jan 2009, 04:47

PlanetPakistan wrote:God bless his soul
very nice man, he would even answer my stupid question

I remember once i said something along the lines of " Bob what the heck are doing by opening the batting with Shoaib Malik?"

literally 2 days later Malik scored a match saving ton while opening the batting in SL...i just didn't bother to read the reply.

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Help ...I'm being strangled ....urrrrrgggghhhhhhh

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Post by *Buckaroo* Fri 30 Jan 2009, 05:57

Henry wrote:So did we ever find out- Was he killed? Did he die of natural causes? Did he kill himself? There never really seemed to be a definitive answer.

he was killed by the Dubai ICC-betting mafia whose sheninigans he threatened to expose.
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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2009, 06:13

PlanetPakistan wrote:God bless his soul
very nice man, he would even answer my stupid question

Why do some Paksters think Gatting is a racist but not Woolmer? The latter went on a rebel tour to SA too.

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Post by mynah Fri 30 Jan 2009, 06:34

They're worried they may yet be accused of helping Woolmer across the Great Divide, perhaps?
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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 30 Jan 2009, 15:21

Rob I wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:God bless his soul
very nice man, he would even answer my stupid question

Why do some Paksters think Gatting is a racist but not Woolmer? The latter went on a rebel tour to SA too.
Not me...
they both made a big mistake by going on the rebel tour but that doesn't automatically turn them in to racists...
greedy yes racist Not so sure.

I was very surprised to hear that Boycott went as well.
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Post by furriner Fri 30 Jan 2009, 16:01

embee wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:God bless his soul
very nice man, he would even answer my stupid question

I remember once i said something along the lines of " Bob what the heck are doing by opening the batting with Shoaib Malik?"

literally 2 days later Malik scored a match saving ton while opening the batting in SL...i just didn't bother to read the reply.

Bob Woolmer wrote:
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Help ...I'm being strangled ....urrrrrgggghhhhhhh


Is it in bad taste to Laughing Laughing Laughing ?
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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2009, 18:48

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Rob I wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:God bless his soul
very nice man, he would even answer my stupid question

Why do some Paksters think Gatting is a racist but not Woolmer? The latter went on a rebel tour to SA too.
Not me...
they both made a big mistake by going on the rebel tour but that doesn't automatically turn them in to racists...
greedy yes racist Not so sure.

I was very surprised to hear that Boycott went as well.

And Amiss, Gooch, Knott, Willey, Dilley, JK Lever, Foster, and Emburey (twice).

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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Jan 2009, 20:18

Not to mention a veritable swarm of West Indian players, none of whom could be called racists. Short-sighted, perhaps, and ultimately (sadly) self-destructive (in their cases); but not racist.

People do stupid things for large lump sums of money.

(>>> ICL, IPL)

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2009, 20:31

Rowe, Kalli and Croft were the main Windians to go as I recall.

Which Aussies went? Hughes, Alderman, Rackemann (sp??) , Maguire? That was a lot of bowling firepower lost.

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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Jan 2009, 20:34

Yes. The 1985 tour hurt us far more than the WSC split.

Mick Taylor and Rod McCurdy would have played Test cricket, and maybe Haysman too. Losing Alderman alone, just before an England tour, was disastrous.

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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 30 Jan 2009, 20:57

lardbucket wrote:Not to mention a veritable swarm of West Indian players, none of whom could be called racists. Short-sighted, perhaps, and ultimately (sadly) self-destructive (in their cases); but not racist.

People do stupid things for large lump sums of money.

(>>> ICL, IPL)

yeah but ICL/IPL isn't as serious a matter as those rebel tours.
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Post by mynah Fri 30 Jan 2009, 22:06

We in South Africa were grateful for those tours. We'd done what the politicians and sporting bodies of the world had asked us to do - integrate sport - and recognition of that came only via rebel tours, not from the politicians or sporting bodies.
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