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Post by WIFAN Mon 08 Oct 2007, 05:37

He's made it into the JA squad for the KFC cup, our Limited Overs tournament starting in 2 weeks. He's averaged 60 odd in the trial matches and looked very solid without being elegant or destructive.

The reason he's in JA is that he has a Jamaican passport (his dad was a Jamaican olympic swimmer) and is therefore eligible for the West Indies. His Queensland contract was not renewed so he has decided to try and gain selection to the West Indies lineup.

He has an ordinary Aussie FC record, but you could add at least 5 runs to his average due to the lower standard of our FC competition.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6950.html?index=story
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Post by Zat Mon 08 Oct 2007, 06:24

Does he have to serve a qualification period WIFAN, or is he available to be selected immediately?

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Post by embee Mon 08 Oct 2007, 06:37

I dont think he does as he has a Jamaican passport and hasnt played for Oz at International level ...apart from his sub fielding
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Post by LeFromage Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:12

Kevin Pietersen had a British passport (from his mother's side) and still had to serve a four-year qualifying period to play for England.

Unless the same rules (which I think are ICC rules) don't apply to the West Indies, Nash won't be able to play for them for a long time, having not lived there for the required period of four years and having played all his FC cricket in Australia.
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Post by embee Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:29

Tama Canning went from Perth Grade cricket to play for the Snoozies ...(he's back playing for Fremantle this season)...he went to the Oz cricket academy

Mullally and McCague certainly didnt have a four year wait...and they had played Shield cricket before they went to England
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Post by Nath Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:39

you could add 10 runs to his average if he wasn't such a crab.
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Post by LeFromage Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:39

Pick the bones out of that: http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/rules/player_eligibility.pdf

To be eligible to represent an ICC Member at Under 19 level or above, a player must
meet at least one of the following core nationality criteria;
A. Core Nationality Criteria
A1. A national of the country (as defined by the country);or
A2. Born in the country; or
A3. Resident in the country for at least 183 days in each of the immediately
preceding seven years; or
A4. Resident in the country for at least 183 days in each of the immediately
preceding four years (some restrictions for Associates and Affiliates detailed
below).

B. Restrictions

B1. The player must not have represented another ICC Member at Under 19 level
or above - in an ICC sanctioned match (e.g. in a Test match, ODI, ICC Global
or Regional event) - in the immediately preceding four years (at under 19 level
or above).
B2. For Associate and Affiliate Members, a player must also meet at least one of
the following development criteria;
B2.1 Played 50% of games in national / domestic competition of the country
in any three of the five preceding years
B2.2 Spent a cumulative total of 100 days over the preceding five years
doing cricket work in the country
B2.3 Represented that country at Under 19 level or above in the past (in an
ICC sanctioned match), either under previous ICC rules (i.e. prior to
Annual Conference 2006) or where the current ICC development
criteria had applied
B2.4 Done enough to convince the Chairman of ICC Cricket Committee that
he has genuine commitment to the development of cricket in that
country (i.e. special dispensation of development criteria granted, upon
application)
B3. Associate and Affiliate Members are limited to a maximum of two players
who qualify under A4 in any team (i.e. those entitled to bat and bowl)
B4. Associates and Affiliates are limited to a maximum of two players in any team
who have formerly represented a Full Member at Under 19 level or above

C. Notes

C1. The restriction at B1 does not apply for a player progressing from representing
an Associate or Affiliate Member to representing a Full Member
C2. For Associate and Affiliate Members, when playing a Full Member or in a
tournament involving a Full Member(s), or when playing any One Day
International, or when playing in the ICC World Cup Qualifier (formerly ICC
Trophy), the restrictions at B2, B3 and B4 do not apply
C3. Upon application, Chairman of ICC Cricket Committee may grant a player
that is ineligible under these rules the ability to be able to play due to
exceptional circumstances
C4. Countries may enforce stricter eligibility rules for their own selection
processes
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Post by embee Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:49

"A national of the country (as defined by the country)"

Passport Holder?

"Countries may enforce stricter eligibilty rules for their own selection processes."

KP?
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Post by LeFromage Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:49

I didn't know about "B3". Does that mean England wouldn't be allowed to pick Pietersen, Jonathan Trott and Tim Ambrose all in the same side because they've all qualified through residency?

Seems a weird rule to mark players down as eligable for selection but only if they're not picked in combination with this or that player.
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Post by embee Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:50

Dello wrote:I didn't know about "B3". Does that mean England wouldn't be allowed to pick Pietersen, Jonathan Trott and Tim Ambrose all in the same side because they've all qualified through residency?

Seems a weird rule to mark players down as eligable for selection but only if they're not picked in combination with this or that player.

Poms are Full Members
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Post by LeFromage Mon 08 Oct 2007, 07:54

What's the difference between an Associate member and an Affiliate member?

edit - never mind, doesn't really matter.
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Post by WIFAN Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:14

I'm under the impression that he can play as soon as he's picked. Not sure why, thats just the info I've been given.

He has proven a bit crabby so far, but he's scored a few runs and quite frankly Im tired of the modern Windies batsmen and their pretty 20/30 runs and out ways.

Another crab to join Chanderpaul would go down well if he can average over 50 in our Domestic competition.
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Post by WIFAN Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:26

http://jamaicagleaner.com/gleaner/20071008/sports/sports6.html

I think the experience I gained in Australia playing with guys like (Matthew) Hayden, (Andrew) Symonds and (Andrew) Bicknel really helped me and I think I can bring that here. Being brought up in Australia, it's a
never-say-die attitude and I am team orientated, so I hope that can be
passed on.

There's heritage here and there's obviously some part of me that makes me feel like this is home," he said. "This is a long-term move - this is home, I've cut ties with Australia and this is it for me now."

I wish him luck, he is lucky enough to have a second chance at succeeding in the sport.
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Post by JKLever Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:45

embee wrote:
Mullally and McCague certainly didnt have a four year wait...and they had played Shield cricket before they went to England

I'm pretty sure they had both played 4 years domestic cricket?
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Post by Henry Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:51

Brendon Nash was a bit of a cult hero in Queensland. Had quite a few friends at Uni in Brisbane who frequently came to the cricket in 'Brendon Nash' T Shirts.

I dont really rate him all that highly as a player from what I have seen of him, although Queensland for some reason tended to bat him down at number 6 rather than in his natural position at the top of the order.Prolific in Brisbane grade cricket, though. He's a bit of a poor mans Mike Hussey.

When was the last time a white player played for the West Indies? Must be back in the 60's?
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Post by Nath Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:53

Henry wrote:He's a bit of a poor mans Mike Hussey.

a very very poor man. a hobo even
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Post by Henry Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:57

Yeah true, probably a hobo lying on the street almost dead because of malnutrition and hypothermia.
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Post by WideWally Mon 08 Oct 2007, 13:13

Henry wrote:When was the last time a white player played for the West Indies? Must be back in the 60's?

Geoff Greenidge in the early 70s.
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Post by Henry Mon 08 Oct 2007, 13:15

Any (distant, I assume) relation to Gordon?
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Post by WideWally Mon 08 Oct 2007, 13:20

AFAIK No relation to Gordon or Alvin.

Geoff Greenidge had an amazing FC debut making a double century & taking a "7 fer" bowling leggies. Surprisingly he only took 6 more wickets in a 182 match FC career.
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Post by WIFAN Mon 03 Mar 2008, 00:32

He scored a hundred today to give Jamaica a chance of winning their 4th match in a row. It was made against an attack including Ravi Rampaul, Dwayne Bravo, Dave Mohammed and Amit Jaggernauth, which is extremely useful at FC level.

In the previous match against Guyana he made 90 not out. He is proving to be a steady if unspectacular batsman at number 5.

I'm ashamed to say that one more big score will see him in the test squad against Sri Lanka.
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