Re: Test/ODI teams of the decade

by Hass Tue 17 Nov 2009, 15:46

If I was picking a personal XI to represent me I'd choose Bond.

I think he was the best fast bowler of the decade excluding McGrath.

But the man played an average of 1.7 Tests each year and that's enough to rule him out of contention for a fair dinkum team of the decade.

It's an incredible shame we didn't get to see more of him.

by DJ_Smerk Tue 17 Nov 2009, 15:49

Let's hope the next decade has more Bond in the offering. It'll be interesting to see how he fares on home turf against the Pakistanis later this month.

Do you reckon the kiwi crowds will turn out to see Bond in action?

by Ash Tue 17 Nov 2009, 18:04

I did think steyn stuck out a bit in that team of thoroughbreds but the alternatives aren't great. Most the other great bowlers had their peaks in the 90s. Maybe gough (whose strike rate was immense)? What would your team be Hass?

by Merlin Tue 17 Nov 2009, 18:12

Using Ross's template ...

Tests

1. ~~Smith~~ Langer
2. Hayden
3. Ponting
4. Lara
5. ~~Dravid~~ Pietersen
6. Kallis
7. Gilchrist
8. ~~Pollock~~ Flintoff
9. TGM
10. Steyn
11. McGrath

ODIs

1. Gilchrist
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
4. Pietersen
5. Symonds
6. ~~Hussey~~ Yuvraj
7. Flintoff
8. Pollock
9. ~~Lee~~ Murali
10. Bond
11. McGrath

by The One Tue 17 Nov 2009, 18:27

i'd pick shoaib over bond. more tests, more wickets, more destructive. in the early to middle part of the decade he was immense

by Ash Tue 17 Nov 2009, 19:02

ODI:

jayasuriya
tendulkar
ponting
gayle
dhoni
yuvraj
gilchrist
flintoff
pollock
murali
mcgrath

by Hass Tue 17 Nov 2009, 20:38

Ash wrote:I did think steyn stuck out a bit in that team of thoroughbreds but the alternatives aren't great. Most the other great bowlers had their peaks in the 90s. Maybe gough (whose strike rate was immense)? What would your team be Hass?

Well, I'm still trying to decide whether to go with a 6-1-4 or a 5-1-5 split myself. Considering I argued the merits of the latter in my previous post I might as well give it a shot.

1. Matthew HAYDEN
2. Graeme SMITH (c)
3. Ricky PONTING
4. Brian LARA
5. Jacques KALLIS
6. Adam GILCHRIST (w/k)
7. Andrew FLINTOFF
8. Shaun POLLOCK
9. Shane WARNE
10. Muttiah MURALITHARAN
11. Glenn McGRATH

Mohammed Yousuf and Rahul Dravid are unlucky to miss out (as is Tendulkar) but there are only so many places. The bowling line-up has a good mix to it. Two-medium fast bowlers, one quick bowler, one leggie and one offie. Pollock was at his best in the 90s but his record in the 00s isn't anything to sneeze at.

Personally, I'd have Warne as the captain but this is a team based on people's records not their potential. That being the case Smith is the obvious choice.

by DJ_Smerk Tue 17 Nov 2009, 21:10

I'm going to approach my Test XI from a different angle...

1) A Strauss (C)
2) G Smith
3) R Ponting
4) R Dravid
5) K Pietersen
6) M Yousuf
7) A Gilchrist (WK)
Cool

S Pollock
9) S Warne
10) S Jones
11) G McGrath

The case for choosing Simon Jones over Shane Bond is simple. Jones got more wickets against better sides (in albeit a short period of time), while Bond barely bowled.

by LeFromage Tue 17 Nov 2009, 21:19

Simon "2.5 successful Tests" Jones?

Team the the decade?

Cheaped the thread right there, Smerk.

by Ash Tue 17 Nov 2009, 22:28

DJ_Smerk wrote:I'm going to approach my Test XI from a different angle...

1) A Strauss (C)
2) G Smith
3) R Ponting
4) R Dravid
5) K Pietersen
6) M Yousuf
7) A Gilchrist (WK)
S Pollock
9) S Warne
10) S Jones
11) G McGrath

The case for choosing Simon Jones over Shane Bond is simple. ~~Jones got more wickets against better sides (in albeit a short period of time), while Bond barely bowled~~ he's welsh.

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by LeFromage Tue 17 Nov 2009, 23:28

Ash wrote:
DJ_Smerk wrote:I'm going to approach my Test XI from a different angle...

1) A Strauss (C)
2) G Smith
3) R Ponting
4) R Dravid
5) K Pietersen
6) M Yousuf
7) A Gilchrist (WK)
S Pollock
9) S Warne
10) S Jones
11) G McGrath

The case for choosing Simon Jones over Shane Bond could only be made by a simpleton. ~~Jones got more wickets against better sides (in albeit a short period of time), while Bond barely bowled~~.

fixed

Double-fixed.

by DJ_Smerk Tue 17 Nov 2009, 23:55

Ban me.

by DJ_Smerk Tue 17 Nov 2009, 23:57

Ash wrote:
DJ_Smerk wrote:I'm going to approach my Test XI from a different angle...

1) A Strauss (C)
2) G Smith
3) R Ponting
4) R Dravid
5) K Pietersen
6) M Yousuf
7) A Gilchrist (WK)
S Pollock
9) S Warne
10) S Jones
11) G McGrath

The case for choosing Simon Jones over Shane Bond is simple. ~~Jones got more wickets against better sides (in albeit a short period of time), while Bond barely bowled~~ he's welsh.

fixed

Ash in bandwagoning the flaming bails trend shock. Merlin would be proud of you, son.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:20

I suppose you could cheekily squeeze Walsh or Ambrose in the Test side, though they didnt play the majority of their careers this decade.

by DJ_Smerk Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:23

DJ_Smerk wrote:Can we seriously put Bond in a Test XI for the decade? I might be very ignorant, but there are many more who have actually lasted more than a year during this decade.

I'd still have Ambrose over Bond in there.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:I suppose you could cheekily squeeze Walsh or Ambrose in the Test side, though they didnt play the majority of their careers this decade.

by PlanetPakistan Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:26

Shoaib has to be in the test 11.

My 11

1- Sehwag
2- Hayden
3- RP
4- Lara
5- Kallis
6- Gilchrist
7- Freddie
8- Warne
9- Murali
10- Shoaib
11- Mcgrath

by LeFromage Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:28

PlanetPakistan wrote:Shoaib has to be in the test 11.

My 11

144 Test wickets in the decade.

Next on the list with 142: Ashley Giles.

Ouch.

by LeFromage Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:35

Best bowling attack, going by the averages is:

Boucher: 1 wicket @ 6
Jaffer: 2 @ 9
Anthony McGrath: 4 @ 14
Sir Rikki of Clarkeshire: 4 @ 15

And a couple of others, but just for a laugh and his captaincy, I'd also throw in:

(the corpse of) W Cronje: 6 wickets @ 17

Weirdly, I think that attack would be one of the better outfits in county cricket...

by PlanetPakistan Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:41

Dello wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Shoaib has to be in the test 11.

My 11

144 Test wickets in the decade.

Next on the list with 142: Ashley Giles.

Ouch.

wheelie bin vs ferrari

This actually reminds me of

by LeFromage Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:45

Do Ferraris only work occasionally, when conditions are perfect and they're not dosed up to the eyeballs on steroids?

by PlanetPakistan Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:47

Dello wrote:Do Ferraris only work occasionally, when conditions are perfect and they're not dosed up to the eyeballs on steroids?

yes they do break down a lot. Cool

by PlanetPakistan Wed 18 Nov 2009, 00:50

DJ_Smerk wrote:Let's hope the next decade has more Bond in the offering. It'll be interesting to see how he fares on home turf against the Pakistanis later this month.

Do you reckon the kiwi crowds will turn out to see Bond in action?

i hope he PWNS us in a losing cause