Dale Steyn

Now on 183 in his 36th test.

Fastest to 200

CV Grimmett 36
DK Lillee 38 Test
Waqar Younis 38
IT Botham 41
SCG MacGill 41
MD Marshall 42
SK Warne 42
AA Donald 42

He's got a tour of India coming up. Could make it tight to get there ahead of Beefy and MacGill.

15 in 3 matches in India.

Depends if they go for roads to negate him

Steyn v Donald. Who would you take?

Probably Donald. Quicker and lost a lot of his early test career

I'd say Donald , too ...but might have a different answer when Steyn has finished his career

Henry wrote:Steyn v Donald. Who would you take?

Donald at the moment but Steyn is outstanding.

They're incredibly similar, I'd have both. What an opening attack. Steyn's incredibly impressive. I'm smug because I 'Trevved' him before anyone else.

Steyn's still pretty young. He might go on to be better than Donald yet.

AD every time for me too.
Pure aggression harnessed to raw speed and clever variation.

Steyn doesn't look like a guy who wants to hurt batsmen enough ....

Donald debuted at 25, Steyn is only 26

Merlin wrote:AD every time for me too.
Pure aggression harnessed to raw speed and clever variation.

Steyn doesn't look like a guy who wants to hurt batsmen enough ....

Doesn't have to with those figures

taipan wrote:Donald debuted at 25, Steyn is only 26

And people are comparing a full Donald career with the early part of a Steyn one. At the same time in their careers, I'd have Steyn.

A very relevant point was made in the comm box after play ended yesterday.
It revolved around how todays technology brought into sharp focus (and in high definition slo-mo), the idiosyncrasies and weaknesses of batsmen all around the world - thus enabling bowlers to focus on areas that would inevitably result in them getting their man.

Does the panel therefore believe that perhaps Steyn's figures (great bowler as he no doubt is) are enhanced by that fact ... whereas AD had to work things out for himself (and the coach) without the modern tecnology (as it is today) assisting him.

Furthermore, would this techno advancement perhaps make an ordinary bowler into a better one as things are made easier for him by just watching replays of each batsmen immediately before he takes the field?

Finally, at this rate, will MuMu's and Warnes feats (and figures) be surpassed in future years with techno/referrals/snicko/etc etc assisting the cause of the modern bowler's amassing of wickets ?

That works the other way around too though Merls. Batsmen can watch bowlers in infinite detail and see what they're up to. Equally, batsmen can work on small weaknesses that in past years they wouldn't have been aware of.

Merlin wrote:Does the panel therefore believe that perhaps Steyn's figures (great bowler as he no doubt is) are enhanced by that fact ... whereas AD had to work things out for himself (and the coach) without the modern tecnology (as it is today) assisting him.

AD played a lot of his test cricket under Woolmer who was one of the first to use technology. Obviously it was not as good as today's.

Henry wrote:Steyn v Donald. Who would you take?

steyn cos he is here and now, donald is retired.

CT wrote:

Henry wrote:Steyn v Donald. Who would you take?

steyn cos he is here and now, donald is retired.

I like the cut of your jib. Do you want to see my cock?

yeah (not) when all the brass monkeys fall off.

Sweet. I'll PM you.

don't bother, seen one you seen them all

Oh. OK. Mine's a f*cking pearler though.

Brass Monkey wrote:Oh. OK. Mine's a f*cking pearler though.

It's round and silvery?

Nope.
Just locked solid between two shells.