Re: Rugby Gilly

by Mick Sawyer Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:37

JGK wrote:For what it's worth, I think the only way we are going to beat the ABs is if Cooper plays at fly half and somehow pulls a blinder out of his arse.

We need need manic dominant defense, untiring, intelligent & accurate work at the tackle & a big play or 3 to beat the ABs. We won't beat them scoring 11 points as we did last weekend. Cooper offers big play potential, as you say.

by Guest Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:46

I kind of want the Aussies to beat NZ. Then lose in the final.

Would be lovely.

by Mick Sawyer Tue 11 Oct 2011, 12:16

vilkrang wrote:I kind of want the Aussies to beat NZ. Then lose in the final.

Would be lovely.

I kinda hope that dog bit you on the todger.

by JKLever Tue 11 Oct 2011, 22:52

Thankfully I missed the past few days.... was busy passing water from both ends at the same time (sure you wanted to know that btw)

So was the Eng/Fra game basically a contest between who could be the least sh!t? Glad we won something then....

Carn the all blacks, win the damn thing. Least offensive potential winners!

by Gary 111 Tue 11 Oct 2011, 23:32

mynah wrote:From The Australian:
LIMITING THE POWER OF THE WHISTLE
Chris Davis

There are no doubt a lot of Australian rugby supporters celebrating our victory over the Springboks yesterday. There are also a number of us that are wondering how on earth we managed to pull it off against a side that dominated possession and territory and lineouts. Now, I don’t want to take anything away from the Australian victory – our boys did perform superbly but on the day the Springboks were, we have to admit, the better side. The boks, as always were magnanimous in defeat with a somewhat pragmatic approach to the result. I wonder what our boys would have said faced with the same situation of blatant incompetence by Mr Bryce Lawrence. I support Australia and always will but for those of us that believe in fair play this was a hollow victory.
This was very much like fighting a worthy opponent with one arm strapped behind his back – it leaves a bad taste. There were rumours about Mr Lawrence’s impartiality before kick-off from a lot of ex pat South Africans now living in Australia but we tend to dismiss these conspiracy theories with a grin.
Certainly, Mr Lawrence’s performance on the field did nothing to dispel those theories. His performance was nothing short of abysmal. He did not award the bok try because of a dubious forward pass. I have looked and looked and to me, anyway, it did not look forward. Minutes later when the boks once again breached our defences and were well on the way to scoring another try, he called them back for a forward pass. If the first call was contentious, there certainly was nothing wrong with the second one. Here, I must ask – why not use the “eye in the sky”? An impressive expensive piece of equipment that should be used for such decisions. He failed to penalise Pocock for slowing the ball down. If we had played like that against the All Blacks, they would not have been so quiet about it. – and rightly so.
In the dying minutes of the game he was in full view of at least 2 high tackles by our boys that went unpunished. Any of these transgressions, if properly acted on, would have surely given the game to the Boks with their advantage over territory. To rub salt in the South African wounds, he awarded a high tackle to the Wallabies for a chest high tackle. We won, but did we really? Our sport has always been regarded as a “hooligans game played by gentlemen” – If we do not want rugby union to degenerate into a farce that soccer can become we need to make sure that our refs are of suitable calibre. They need to be trustworthy gentlemen.
Mr Lawrence, I would advise against any planned holidays to South Africa for a couple of years.

Hope for the sake of rugby Bryce Lawrence will now be retired from the international panel...

Bryce Lawrence was awful in the England vs Pumas match earlier in the tournament, and seemingly could find an England foul in the most innocent situations. But England still found a way to win, despite the Pumas looking a better team for most of the tournament. The best teams will always find a way to win (not saying England are the best, not by a long stretch - but they did enough to win despite the ref in that game. We then went on to be outfought by the French, which isn't a typical sentence to write. But anyway I digress...)

Did anyone else notice that 4 of the 2007 semi finalists all made the last 4 of the previous world cup?

by G.Wood Tue 11 Oct 2011, 23:40

Gary 111 wrote:

Did anyone else notice that 4 of the 2007 semi finalists all made the last 4 of the previous world cup?

vilkrang wrote:That's amazing.

Any idea which 4?

by Mick Sawyer Tue 11 Oct 2011, 23:50

I read this morning that mynah's clipping from the Australian is believed to be a hoax. Oh dear! Back to sources within SA to generate the self pity.

by Gary 111 Tue 11 Oct 2011, 23:51

G.Wood wrote:
Gary 111 wrote:

Did anyone else notice that 4 of the 2007 semi finalists all made the last 4 of the previous world cup?
vilkrang wrote:That's amazing.

Any idea which 4?

Samoa, Western Samoa, American Samoa, I forget the other one....

by PeterCS Wed 12 Oct 2011, 00:25

British Eastern Samoa aye-aye

by mynah Thu 13 Oct 2011, 05:34

Exclusive!

Bryce Lawrence's favourite pin-up page!

by skully Thu 13 Oct 2011, 05:37

And 59,999 are SAffies

"Almost 60,000 rugby fans have joined an online petition calling on a New Zealand referee never to officiate again, after his "incompetence" allegedly robbed the Springboks of a semifinal place.

Bryce Lawrence presided over the weekend's Australia v South Africa quarter-final, in which the Wallabies pipped the Springboks 11-9."

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Funny stuff. Very Happy

And mynah, is this your real name...

" "The Boks deserve a rematch!" said Kim-Leigh Kristen Davids. "WE DEMAND A REMATCH! We can beat da Aussies in our sleep!! (without Bryce Lawrence as the ref)."

by bodyline Thu 13 Oct 2011, 06:06

skully wrote:And 59,999 are SAffies

"Almost 60,000 rugby fans have joined an online petition calling on a New Zealand referee never to officiate again, after his "incompetence" allegedly robbed the Springboks of a semifinal place.

Bryce Lawrence presided over the weekend's Australia v South Africa quarter-final, in which the Wallabies pipped the Springboks 11-9."

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Funny stuff.

And mynah, is this your real name...

" "The Boks deserve a rematch!" said Kim-Leigh Kristen Davids. "WE DEMAND A REMATCH! We can beat da Aussies in our sleep!! (without Bryce Lawrence as the ref)."

All of whom reside in Perth.

by G.Wood Thu 13 Oct 2011, 06:17

So they wanted 90% of possession

I guess saffies thinking them woz robbed makes beating them even better

by Mick Sawyer Thu 13 Oct 2011, 06:19

saffies are funny

by skully Thu 13 Oct 2011, 06:19

I see poor taips is struggling to muster the courage to rock up and take his medicine. Or maybe he had an aneurism due to overwhelming anger. Shocked

by Mick Sawyer Thu 13 Oct 2011, 06:41

G.Wood wrote:So they wanted 90% of possession

I guess saffies thinking them woz robbed makes beating them even better

The centre pieces of the 2007 gameplan were to kick away possession, dominate field position, wrap up the ball carrier like a cocoon around a moth & then kick goals when the ball carrier was penalised for holding on. Their team was selected with that game plan in mind. They executed to near perfection.

Four years later and there's a much greater emphasis on the tackler releasing the ball carrier, the Boks still have the 2007 game plan team, are clueless on attack & are bewildered when the penalties that were awarded 4 years ago are no longer flowing like the Amazon.

by taipan Thu 13 Oct 2011, 06:50

skully wrote:I see poor taips is struggling to muster the courage to rock up and take his medicine. Or maybe he had an aneurism due to overwhelming anger.

Actually Skulls you might have noticed I hadn't been on since last Thursday.

by Mick Sawyer Thu 13 Oct 2011, 07:00

taipan wrote:
skully wrote:I see poor taips is struggling to muster the courage to rock up and take his medicine. Or maybe he had an aneurism due to overwhelming anger.

Actually Skulls you might have noticed I hadn't been on since last Thursday.

Welcome back taips.

by G.Wood Thu 13 Oct 2011, 07:11

he's come back in time to rub it in about cricket

by taipan Thu 13 Oct 2011, 07:15

G.Wood wrote:he's come back in time to rub it in about cricket

I am on record as saying SA is severely undercooked.

by Mick Sawyer Thu 13 Oct 2011, 10:27

taipan wrote:
G.Wood wrote:he's come back in time to rub it in about cricket

I am on record as saying SA is severely undercooked.

I'd choose undercooked ahead of festering roadkill.

by beamer Thu 13 Oct 2011, 22:30

Mick Sawyer wrote:
G.Wood wrote:So they wanted 90% of possession

I guess saffies thinking them woz robbed makes beating them even better

The centre pieces of the 2007 gameplan were to kick away possession, dominate field position, wrap up the ball carrier like a cocoon around a moth & then kick goals when the ball carrier was penalised for holding on. Their team was selected with that game plan in mind. They executed to near perfection.

Four years later and there's a much greater emphasis on the tackler releasing the ball carrier, the Boks still have the 2007 game plan team, are clueless on attack & are bewildered when the penalties that were awarded 4 years ago are no longer flowing like the Amazon.

Having virtually the same team who were all 4 years older has to have been a factor as well, now they may have the Aussie cricket team problem of having numerous world class experienced players to replace all at once. Particularly when players like Du Preez and maybe Habana, who are not that old and maybe even had another World Cup in them, are ruling themselves out by moving to Japan.

Having said that, I think with a few countries' current policies on overseas-based players and the normal trend for retirements after World Cups, most of the major sides will be unrecognisable from those at this tournament when they next take to the field. The younger sides like Wales and Australia should benefit for the next couple of years.

by horace Fri 14 Oct 2011, 01:24

must say the one thing I have learned from the Rugger Gilly is that the Boer War was actually won by the pomgoilans...how else to explain the world championship level of whining from the Saffies soince their team got rolled last weekend

by PeterCS Fri 14 Oct 2011, 01:46

Pomgoilians? ~ are you Jackie Mason already, Horace?

by PeterCS Fri 14 Oct 2011, 01:51

PS & FWIW: The Poms did technically win the Second (Great) Boer War, though it was (almost classically) a pyrrhic victory. ~ And a couple of years down the line, a new British government essentially handed back full autonomy to the Republics, when it decided it couldn't afford the levels of direct imperial control that would have been needed.

So the volk won the standoff, really.

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