Another school shooting in the USA

Might as well retire this thread. It has outlived its usefulness.

Just rename it to another day in the USA. Or a day in Europe 15 years from now.

Seppoes get a gold medal in shooting ...

Some American perspective...

What happens when you think anyone could be armed:

Police shoot dead 13-year-old Tyree King after mistaking BB gun for a real firearm

Richard Perez-Pena
Ohio: Officials in Columbus, Ohio, appealed for calm, patience and investigative help on Thursday, hours after a white police officer fatally shot a 13-year-old African-American boy who had apparently brandished a firearm that was later determined to be a BB gun.

Speaking at a news conference, the mayor, the police chief and other officials offered few details about what led to the death Wednesday night of the teenager, Tyree King. They cautioned that the investigation, which will be presented to a grand jury, will not be quick. So far, they said, they do not know of any video recording of the incident.

"Any loss of life is tragic, but the loss of a young person is particularly difficult," Mayor Andrew J. Ginther said. "Investigations take time, and I ask for everyone's patience during this difficult time."

According to police, officers responded to a report of an armed robbery in the Olde Towne East neighbourhood in central Columbus, and saw three males who matched the suspects' descriptions. Two fled and officers chased them into an alley, where Tyree pulled what appeared to be a gun from his waistband, police said, and an officer shot him multiple times.

The officer was identified as Bryan Mason, a nine-year veteran.

Tyree's death is one in a long string of deaths of black people at the hands of police in recent years that have drawn national attention, particularly when video is made public. They have prompted sharp debates about race and policing, intense criticism of the police and, in some cases, civil unrest. One of the most scrutinised cases, and one of the most similar to the one in Columbus, also took place in Ohio: the 2014 death of Tamir Rice, 12, who was playing with a pellet gun in a park in Cleveland.

Columbus officials made it clear that they were acutely aware of that history, saying it was too early to make parallels to other cases, and insisting that they were striving for openness and community outreach that critics have said were lacking in other cities. They also repeatedly stressed Tyree's conduct, the credible threats officers face and the gun culture.

"Why is it that a 13-year-old would have nearly an exact replica of a police firearm on him in our neighbourhoods?" Ginther asked. "An eighth-grader involved in very, very dangerous conduct in one of our neighborhoods."

The mayor cited "easy access to guns, whether they are firearms or replicas," as a serious problem, adding, "A 13-year-old is dead in the city of Columbus because of our obsession with guns."

Kimberley Jacobs, the police chief, repeatedly referred to Tyree as a "young man," and said: "This is the last thing that a police officer wants to do in their career. Unfortunately, because of the things that are happening out on the streets, it becomes necessary at times to defend themselves."

She held up a photo of a BB gun of the kind found in the alley near Tyree, to show how similar-looking it is to the sidearm used by the Columbus police, a Smith & Wesson Military & Police semi-automatic pistol.

The Columbus Police posted a similar image on Twitter.

The photographs show a BB gun that does not have an orange tip or other bright colours sometimes used to distinguish them from lethal weapons.

"It turns out not to be a firearm, in the sense that it fires real bullets, but as you can see, it looks like a firearm that can kill you," she said.

The shooting quickly drew widespread attention on social media, as people took sides to find fault with either the police or the boy.

Jacobs said police were looking for video from security cameras or bystanders' phones, and were interviewing witnesses, including one of the people who was with Tyree. She said it was not clear whether that person would be charged with a crime.

"There were witnesses, we believe, to the armed robbery and there were people in the vicinity of the shooting, but we don't know what they were able to discern," she said.

The Columbus police do not wear body cameras, but they will starting next year, said the mayor, who supports their use.

New York Times

5 dead in another shooting in Orlando. Not terror related, just whacko related.

No one have a gun?

Aussie woman shot dead by cop

"An Australian woman has been shot dead by police in the US city of Minneapolis, DFAT says.

Police responded to reports of a possible assault about 11.30pm on Saturday, local time.

One police officer fired their weapon, killing the 40-year-old Australian woman, Minneapolis Police said.

Friends of the woman said she was an Australian engaged to be married to a Minneapolis man.
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The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) said in a statement on Sunday that police officers had responded to an emergency call about a possible assault in an alley behind an home in the Minneapolis suburb of Fulton.

"At one point, one officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman," the BCA said.

Investigators are trying to locate a video of the shooting, as officers' body cameras were turned off at the time and cameras in the squad car did not capture the incident, the BCA said."

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Seems Seppo cops are pretty trigger happy.

She called the cops due to a noise behind her home, and lost her life as a result.

That's what happens when the cops think that anyone could have a gun.

skully wrote:Aussie woman shot dead by cop

"An Australian woman has been shot dead by police in the US city of Minneapolis, DFAT says.

Police responded to reports of a possible assault about 11.30pm on Saturday, local time.

One police officer fired their weapon, killing the 40-year-old Australian woman, Minneapolis Police said.

Friends of the woman said she was an Australian engaged to be married to a Minneapolis man.
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The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) said in a statement on Sunday that police officers had responded to an emergency call about a possible assault in an alley behind an home in the Minneapolis suburb of Fulton.

"At one point, one officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman," the BCA said.

Investigators are trying to locate a video of the shooting, as officers' body cameras were turned off at the time and cameras in the squad car did not capture the incident, the BCA said."

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Seems Seppo cops are pretty trigger happy.

She called the cops due to a noise behind her home, and lost her life as a result.

Obviously something is being lost in translation.

Shit going down in Barcelona.

Death toll up to 13

I have rambled down that mall a few times, absently eating an ice-cream or just admiring the architecture and culture ... there is nowhere safe from idiots in these dark days.

Nasty gear.

WTF aren't there bollards down Las Ramblas. After Nice this was surely highly predictable.

Sad news about the little Aussie 7 year old in Barcelona. RIP.

skully wrote:Sad news about the little Aussie 7 year old in Barcelona. RIP.

Aye. And the mum is still critical.

I also read that of the 5 qunts involved in the follow up attack in the town outside Barcelona, 4 of them were shot dead almost immediately by a copper who had just joined the force having retired from his SAS duties because he wanted a "quieter life".

Well done him.

Not a school shooting but looks pretty bad in Vegas.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/10/02/active-shooter-at-las-vegas-resort--reports.html?ref=BP_HERO_SKY_at-least-two-dead-in-us-shooting_021017

Now reporting 20+ killed!

Shocking, but hardly surprising if these sort of tactics are used. In the US there are no real barriers to people getting hold of guns. In Europe and elsewhere, terrorist groups have had to try other methods of mass killing.

A cowboy on the 32nd floor mowing down C&W fans at open air concert. Charming.

Fifty plus dead according to reports. Shocking. It's now officially the deadliest shooting in US history. This also on a day where people senselessly died in Marseilles and Canada due to random attacks.

At this point, like middle eastern terrorism deaths, it's more just a statistic than an unbelievable tragedy. Sounds crass, but it seems to occur every other week.

Red wrote:Fifty plus dead according to reports. Shocking. It's now officially the deadliest shooting in US history. This also on a day where people senselessly died in Marseilles and Canada due to random attacks.

FMD!!!

I guess a drum magazine machine gun will do that.

Fark the USA. Trump and his sick ilk deserve what they get.