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Post by Basil Sun 06 Oct 2013, 10:27

Ironic that the last man standing of the 2005 fast bowling attack is the most injury-raddled of the lot - SiJo. Anyway, thanks for the memories Steve (apart from the first ball at The Gabba obviously).
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Post by furriner Sun 06 Oct 2013, 12:47

For some, thanks for the memories of that first ball as well.

Oh how we laughed, etc.
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Post by PeterCS Sun 06 Oct 2013, 13:43

They all laughed at Christopher Columbus.


Aye, Fred bowed out first, gap, then one, two, three. All gone from 2005, bar the shouting (heavily engineered shouting)  that is T20.
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Post by LeFromage Sun 06 Oct 2013, 18:52

He's already been reincarnated as Steve Finn.
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Post by skully Mon 07 Oct 2013, 04:30

Well played (in the main), Harmy. boozin 
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Post by Fred Nerk Mon 07 Oct 2013, 04:52

For somebody who's copped his fair share of ridicule and never seemed anything like a long-termer, he did hang in there a good while.....well done Harmy.

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Post by Fred Nerk Mon 07 Oct 2013, 04:52

For somebody who's copped his fair share of ridicule and never seemed anything like a long-termer, he did hang in there a good while.....well done Harmy.

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Post by horace Mon 07 Oct 2013, 07:24

aye...a damned frightening bowler on his day
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Post by Brass Monkey Mon 07 Oct 2013, 08:41

He was a genuine threat on his day and would charge in when asked. Belittled constantly to the point of ridicule, which is pretty harsh for 226 @ 31.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:07

It is, but the combination of the abject homesickness and then THAT first ball for the Ashes holders inevitably did for him - almost whatever else he had achieved.

Yet for about a year and a half he was the English Curtly - height, bounce. menace.
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Post by Brass Monkey Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:29

I think a lot of his apparent demeanour was blown out of all proportion and used by lazy journalists who couldn't be bothered to do any real work. That ball was a shocker - Mitchell Starc rivalled it in the last Ashes - there were a few chuckles, but nothing like the incredible hyperbole that Harmison's ball brought. Yes, he said he missed home - who doesn't after long periods away?

Point being that the media are basically a bunch of sheep who follow the one who bleats loudest or who bleats the most prolifically. They're hardly microcosms for his entire career.

He underachieved, like many an English quick, his raw tools were pretty impressive - I'd say that his stats are worthy of more - but all that seems to get mentioned are the things you just have. There're many spells that were brutal, yet will never, ever pass a mention. Not when you can bring up a ball that went straight to second slip. I mean, it went to second slip for Christ's sake. Let's talk about that. Why not. Haven't heard about it in, ohh... three weeks?
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Post by LeFromage Mon 07 Oct 2013, 19:24

His radar was pretty shonky at times, but it was terribly unfair that his "heart" was often questioned. Never once did I see him just give up - he always ran in and bowled as fast as he could, even when the ball was pebbledashing the cut strip; even when he was a bit of a laughing stock in the crowd/press room.

He also never barrelled into the stumps like a startled cow on rollerblades. With labrynthitis.
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Post by horace Tue 08 Oct 2013, 00:04

I think Harmi still blames Mudge for the slagging he recieved from soap dodger fans...
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Post by PeterCS Tue 08 Oct 2013, 13:06

Brass Monkey wrote:I think a lot of his apparent demeanour was blown out of all proportion and used by lazy journalists who couldn't be bothered to do any real work. That ball was a shocker - Mitchell Starc rivalled it in the last Ashes - there were a few chuckles, but nothing like the incredible hyperbole that Harmison's ball brought. Yes, he said he missed home - who doesn't after long periods away?

Point being that the media are basically a bunch of sheep who follow the one who bleats loudest or who bleats the most prolifically. They're hardly microcosms for his entire career.

He underachieved, like many an English quick, his raw tools were pretty impressive - I'd say that his stats are worthy of more - but all that seems to get mentioned are the things you just have. There're many spells that were brutal, yet will never, ever pass a mention. Not when you can bring up a ball that went straight to second slip. I mean, it went to second slip for Christ's sake. Let's talk about that. Why not. Haven't heard about it in, ohh... three weeks?
He was at the top of the world bowling rankings for about a year, in whatever the ratings were called at the time. Must have been around the time he went with England to the Caribbean (at a time WIndies seemed to be showing signs of a recovery) and blew them away.

That's what I was getting at with the "English Curtly" bit.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 08 Oct 2013, 15:11

Oh yeah, he was out of this world. Everything clicked and he blew up. I was just saying that he should be remembered for more than one ball and one comment. I blamed the media for such.
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Post by skully Wed 09 Oct 2013, 01:46

Brass Monkey wrote:He was a genuine threat on his day and would charge in when asked. Belittled constantly to the point of ridicule, which is pretty harsh for 226 @ 31.
Aye, that's a class Test return.
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Post by embee Wed 09 Oct 2013, 03:14

skully wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:He was a genuine threat on his day and would charge in when asked. Belittled constantly to the point of ridicule, which is pretty harsh for 226 @ 31.
Aye, that's a class Test return.
310@30.81 would take the gloss of your comment
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Post by JGK Wed 09 Oct 2013, 03:16

Harmy was one of the guest speakers on the Ashes tour I was on one morning.  

Very charming (and physically huge) guy.  Talked a lot about the challenge of playing Australia (how he must have wished he was 10 years younger) and as a Northener was very critical of the next AShes itinerary when the most northerly Test match is in Birmingham.

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Post by Fred Nerk Wed 09 Oct 2013, 04:12

JGK wrote:Harmy was one of the guest speakers on the Ashes tour I was on one morning.  

Very charming (and physically huge) guy.  Talked a lot about the challenge of playing Australia (how he must have wished he was 10 years younger) and as a Northener was very critical of the next AShes itinerary when the most northerly Test match is in Birmingham.
Brum to Manchester: 138k, about the distance from Melbourne to Ballarat, mostly on motorway.

Dare I say: SIUUBG.


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Post by JGK Wed 09 Oct 2013, 04:15

How far is it to Newcastle?

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Post by Fred Nerk Wed 09 Oct 2013, 04:22

About 330 - or half a tank of Newcastle Brown Ale.

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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 09 Oct 2013, 09:40

Fred Nerk wrote:
Brum to Manchester: 138k, about the distance from Melbourne to Ballarat, mostly on motorway.

Dare I say: SIUUBG.

Very Happy Heh.

TBF, he's just being a parochial Northern bastard, rather than a homesicker.
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Post by PeterCS Wed 09 Oct 2013, 10:17

And justifiably so.
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