5 May marks 200 years since

Karl Marx first drew breath.

Link

Careful h, your pink undies are showing.

To paraphrase Marx, "religion is the opiate of the masses".
He got that right.

I always thought that was Lenin?

The least impressive of all the Marx boys, with the possible exception of Richard.

Groucho is the man.

lardbucket wrote:The least impressive of all the Marx boys, with the possible exception of Richard.

Groucho is the man.

Skid?

and Peg

Big Dog wrote:To paraphrase Marx, "religion is the opiate of the masses".
He got that right.

you got that right young fella

Paid homage in London horrie?

Bradman wrote:Paid homage in London horrie?

Nup. Old Karl was not short of a well rounded opinion of himself but he would be appalled by parades of folk visiting his grave.

I don't know. A thinker deserves respect and a little bit of homage. Not his fault the revolution kicked off in the last place expected.

Not an advocate of pitchforks generally but a little bit justified in that case.

Yep qmy

"Man makes history but not always as he would wish" ...or words similar

4 May next year will mark 40 years of Thatcherism.

JGK wrote:4 May next year will mark 40 years of Thatcherism.

Now there is a cheery thought

Hopefully to be overshadowed by Star Wars day or international cookie dough day. I imagine Rupert will holy a huge gala dinner if his fifth cookie hasn't give him a heart attack

horace wrote:Yep qmy

"Man makes history but not always as he would wish" ...or words similar

Which man was that?

Doesn't he get a bit tired of it? ...

Which one of the yankee robber barons said history was bumkem?

horace wrote:

Bradman wrote:Paid homage in London horrie?

Nup. Old Karl was not short of a well rounded opinion of himself but he would be appalled by parades of folk visiting his grave.

"It's a communist plot, I tell you ..."

I think he would have been more appalled by the giant lumpen Marxist-Leninist [code for "Stalinist"] monumentally hagiographic head, even than the entrance fee charged.

He might actually have chuckled at the thought of silly buggers paying homage to his bonce. He had a mordant sense of humour, to judge by his writings public and private.

Compare that with, say:

Bradman wrote:Which one of the yankee robber barons said history was bumkem?

The Model T man (any colour, as long as it's black). "... more or less bunk", to be more exact.

General W.T. Sherman, on War, is more interesting reading.

Very different messages at different times, in different roles - while driving old Dixie down in the war, or out to massacre Injuns, he had the scent of blood in his nostrils.

But afterwards, rueful variations on "War is Hell". From one who knew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tecumseh_Sherman

Yes, I know that's wandering off Marx. But this is The Bails.

Wander away. I'm sitting in a pub so another civil want quote deems appropriate.

Send all my generals a case of whatever he's drinking.
Lincoln on Grant who more or less burnt those parts of Dixie Sherman couldn't get to

JGK wrote:4 May next year will mark 40 years of Thatcherism.

Great woman.

If you were a stock broker or the like. Too bad if you were poor. Or young and wondering if her and Ronnie were organising our extinction.

Her love for the rope govt colouring your views taips?

Bradman wrote:If you were a stock broker or the like. Too bad if you were poor.  Or young and wondering if her and Ronnie were organising our extinction.

Her love for the rope govt colouring your views taips?

Nah, as with any politician you have to balance the good with the bad. Her actions in curbing Union power had to be done. Britain was a total mess in the 70's under Labour. I would also argue that she was justified over the Falklands.

FWIW I hated the Nats as much as I now hate the ANC. Both totally corrupt organizations.

Yeah I remember the mess. As for SA it had to happen and it mainly came from ccmpanies wanting to sell their goods to kaffirs. Twas a war taips it's never pretty..

Bradman wrote:Yeah I remember the mess.  As for SA it had to happen and it mainly came from ccmpanies wanting to sell their goods to kaffirs. Twas a war taips  it's never pretty..

That is the materiality of life and death.