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Post by Blackadder Wed 09 Mar 2022, 00:36

From ESPN Aus/NZ FB page

In the new MCC Laws, effective October 1, a new batter will be on strike following a caught dismissal even if the previous batter had crossed in the middle before the catch was taken.

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Post by lardbucket Wed 09 Mar 2022, 01:37

That’s a big change.

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Post by skully Wed 09 Mar 2022, 02:52

Wonder what the rationale is.
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Post by Blackadder Wed 09 Mar 2022, 05:11

skully wrote:Wonder what the rationale is.

Given it came about from the England 100 ball comp, I would say not much rationale.

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Post by lardbucket Wed 09 Mar 2022, 06:25

I think it may be because on line / live scoring is a little more complex when a catch is taken and the batsmen do cross ... I’ve made mistakes in the past at such junctures and had to work very fast to correct them. If the new batsman is automatically put on strike after every catch, it’s going to be easier for novice live scorers.

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Post by skully Wed 09 Mar 2022, 06:53

Blackadder wrote:
skully wrote:Wonder what the rationale is.

Given it came about from the England 100 ball comp, I would say not much rationale.

Tru dat.
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Post by embee Wed 09 Mar 2022, 08:53

lardbucket wrote:I think it may be because on line / live scoring is a little more complex when a catch is taken and the batsmen do cross ... I’ve made mistakes in the past at such junctures and had to work very fast to correct them. If the new batsman is automatically put on strike after every catch, it’s going to be easier for novice live scorers.

one less job for the umpires to do

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Post by beamer Wed 09 Mar 2022, 10:05

Interesting… what next, the surviving batsman returns to his original end after a run-out?

Perhaps always a bit of an anomaly that you can change ends while the ball is in the air for a catch but a completed run doesn’t count. Will possibly change tactics in run-chase slogs, where a tailender can’t hit it up in the air and get the senior batsman back on strike one way or the other…

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Post by JGK Fri 11 Mar 2022, 05:52

beamer wrote:Interesting… what next, the surviving batsman returns to his original end after a run-out?

Perhaps always a bit of an anomaly that you can change ends while the ball is in the air for a catch but a completed run doesn’t count. Will possibly change tactics in run-chase slogs, where a tailender can’t hit it up in the air and get the senior batsman back on strike one way or the other…

Yeah. I don't love the anomaly now between catches and run outs.

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Post by beamer Fri 11 Mar 2022, 09:02

JGK wrote:
beamer wrote:Interesting… what next, the surviving batsman returns to his original end after a run-out?

Perhaps always a bit of an anomaly that you can change ends while the ball is in the air for a catch but a completed run doesn’t count. Will possibly change tactics in run-chase slogs, where a tailender can’t hit it up in the air and get the senior batsman back on strike one way or the other…

Yeah.  I don't love the anomaly now between catches and run outs.
I suppose the difference is that completed runs count before a run-out. Disallowing all runs off a wicket ball would be harsh (run out going for a fourth and you lose the other three??) so it would be more a case of ignoring whether they crossed in going for the unsuccessful run, which probably would make sense.

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