Ponting in stringing words together and making sense shock

Oh, Mick, get the farkin rose-coloured glasses off. If you want cricket played by gentlemen, you aren't gonna find it anywhere in cricket history.

It's not rose coloured glasses.It is an obsession with Ponting.

skully wrote:So Mick, has Punter replaced TGM as your most loathed current Aussie Test player?

Mate, that's trite. I simply get sick to ****** death of Aussies slagging others for swallowing whatever self serving crap is put out by the other nation & then closing one eye to whatever self serving crap is made in Australia.

Skull - I don't think Ponting should be Captain - I haven't since 2005. Events of recent times underline that he comes up short.

Mick Sawyer wrote:

skully wrote:So Mick, has Punter replaced TGM as your most loathed current Aussie Test player?

Mate, that's trite. I simply get sick to ****** death of Aussies slagging others for swallowing whatever self serving crap is put out by the other nation & then closing one eye to whatever self serving crap is made in Australia.

Skull - I don't think Ponting should be Captain - I haven't since 2005. Events of recent times underline that he comes up short.

That's right, Mick wants a captain whom he can treat like his son . . .

tac wrote:Oh, Mick, get the farkin rose-coloured glasses off. If you want cricket played by gentlemen, you aren't gonna find it anywhere in cricket history.

tac - I truly don't expect the game in 2008 to be played by gentlemen in the manner you're implying. However, I do believe that behaviour such as Symonds personally abusing another player for an act delivered in good spirit to be unacceptable. The ****** problem is that the players & their captain have the heads tracking to the holes in their bums and are not aware that they are out of ****** order.

tac wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:

skully wrote:So Mick, has Punter replaced TGM as your most loathed current Aussie Test player?

Mate, that's trite. I simply get sick to ****** death of Aussies slagging others for swallowing whatever self serving crap is put out by the other nation & then closing one eye to whatever self serving crap is made in Australia.

Skull - I don't think Ponting should be Captain - I haven't since 2005. Events of recent times underline that he comes up short.

That's right, Mick wants a captain whom he can treat like his son . . .

tac - that's lame.

G.Wood wrote:Has anyone ever seen Neil Harvey and Horace in the same room?

OI!!!!!...this is the closest I have come to being cross for donkey's years...I can think of no more a dire insult than being compared to that gross burntout bitter husk of a spiv wannabe ...
i cannot recall him (or RD for that matter) saying anything remotely positive about anything for many decades...his career when failing regularly to the likes of trueman which undermined the success prospects of the Oz test team needs sharp scrutiny..

as a complete and utter nob he was never captaincy material and he never got over it..

let's consign RNH along with the likes of botham, roebuck and gavaskar as yappers at the heels of history to the realms of irrelevancy where he belongs

horace wrote:
OI!!!!!...this is the closest I have come to being cross for donkey's years...I can think of no more a dire insult than being compared to that gross burntout bitter husk of a spiv wannabe ...

funny, that's exactly what Harvey said about you

tac wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:

tac wrote:

G.Wood wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:Anyone notice Ponting's lack of respect for past players in the 5th paragraph? (couldn't lift & paste, apologies)

Amusing that he's having a sook about the attitude of past players towards his team and in doing so flames the committment of Test players of past years.

He just doesn't get it.

Imagine him telling Keith Miller that he just went out and had a bit of a giggle.

Still you could expect Drunky to sat that many things and get them all right.

I think Miller might agree with Punter.

Miller's on record saying that Bradman played it way too hard against the Poms in 1948. Miller felt that series should have been conducted in a far more relaxed manner against an opposition that had suffered more from the physical & mental deprivations of a war on their doorstep.

Exactly why I think Miller would agree with Punter's summation.

er, Miller may have preferred that the 1948 series was played in a more mellow fashion but how does morph to cricket in the 50's being played like a park match?

Mick . . . I can accept what Symonds did as fine. He was basically saying that Harby is a cunut and has no friends in the Aus team so don't try it on. Fair call in my eyes.

Again, mate, I'm fine with playing it as tough as you like on the ground, you're not . . . of maybe we just have different opinions of where the line should be drawn.

Robin Smith asks for a drink and Grumpy replies . . . "No, you can't have a farkin drink, you can farkin wait like the rest of us. It ain't a farkin tea party". That is brilliant, and Symonds getting into Harby for being "friends" when he is a farkin prick and all know it is just as fair.

If Ponting's team is so bad why does Sanga say this?
Sangakkara: I think more than the players getting more involved in it, the media hype has increased. It's strange for me because when I came into the side, it was all about Australia saying this and saying that and being very verbally aggressive on the field. In the past four years, we've played quite a few series against them and we've never had any incident of that sort. There have been a few words said, but there has never been anything that is personally abusive. It was just a lot of tough, hard cricket being played.

We had one really bad Test series in South Africa in 2002, but after that series, there was nothing else.
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/talk/content/multimedia/330974.html?view=transcript

Could it be that Ponting is actually telling the truth about cracking down on his player's behaviour,and sometimes his players get carried away?Everybody seems to think the gesture from Harby was one of good spirit.Did it occur to anybody that Symonds saw it as a patronising gesture?Symonds should have left it to Brett Lee,but sometimes he can be a hot head.He has learnt his lesson.Harby hasn't,he doesn't have to.

tac wrote:Mick . . . I can accept what Symonds did as fine. He was basically saying that Harby is a cunut and has no friends in the Aus team so don't try it on. Fair call in my eyes.

Again, mate, I'm fine with playing it as tough as you like on the ground, you're not . . . of maybe we just have different opinions of where the line should be drawn.

Robin Smith asks for a drink and Grumpy replies . . . "No, you can't have a farkin drink, you can farkin wait like the rest of us. It ain't a farkin tea party". That is brilliant, and Symonds getting into Harby for being "friends" when he is a farkin prick and all know it is just as fair.

Cool

Mick Sawyer wrote:

tac wrote:Mick . . . I can accept what Symonds did as fine. He was basically saying that Harby is a cunut and has no friends in the Aus team so don't try it on. Fair call in my eyes.

Again, mate, I'm fine with playing it as tough as you like on the ground, you're not . . . of maybe we just have different opinions of where the line should be drawn.

Robin Smith asks for a drink and Grumpy replies . . . "No, you can't have a farkin drink, you can farkin wait like the rest of us. It ain't a farkin tea party". That is brilliant, and Symonds getting into Harby for being "friends" when he is a farkin prick and all know it is just as fair.

Cool

Mick Sawyer wrote:

tac wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:

tac wrote:

G.Wood wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:Anyone notice Ponting's lack of respect for past players in the 5th paragraph? (couldn't lift & paste, apologies)

Amusing that he's having a sook about the attitude of past players towards his team and in doing so flames the committment of Test players of past years.

He just doesn't get it.

Imagine him telling Keith Miller that he just went out and had a bit of a giggle.

Still you could expect Drunky to sat that many things and get them all right.

I think Miller might agree with Punter.

Miller's on record saying that Bradman played it way too hard against the Poms in 1948. Miller felt that series should have been conducted in a far more relaxed manner against an opposition that had suffered more from the physical & mental deprivations of a war on their doorstep.

Exactly why I think Miller would agree with Punter's summation.

er, Miller may have preferred that the 1948 series was played in a more mellow fashion but how does morph to cricket in the 50's being played like a park match?

erm Miller was one of the least committed cricketers (and footballers), sometimes bailing out of a match at the last moment to go the track

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horace wrote:
OI!!!!!...this is the closest I have come to being cross for donkey's years...I can think of no more a dire insult than being compared to that gross burntout bitter husk of a spiv wannabe ...

funny, that's exactly what Harvey said about you

Get lucky RD!!

tac wrote:Mick . . . I can accept what Symonds did as fine. He was basically saying that Harby is a cunut and has no friends in the Aus team so don't try it on. Fair call in my eyes.

Again, mate, I'm fine with playing it as tough as you like on the ground, you're not . . . of maybe we just have different opinions of where the line should be drawn.

Robin Smith asks for a drink and Grumpy replies . . . "No, you can't have a farkin drink, you can farkin wait like the rest of us. It ain't a farkin tea party". That is brilliant, and Symonds getting into Harby for being "friends" when he is a farkin prick and all know it is just as fair.

This is utter cobblers. Harby makes a friendly gesture to Lee, a hard luck gesture, and Symmo jumping in to start a sledge on that basis is justified in your eyes, never mind his using the language he says he did? :|

And second, has anyone looked at Symmo's explanation of what he did at the start and why?

The Herald Sun, cricinfo link:

"Brett Lee had just sent down a delivery and Harbhajan took off down the wicket. When he was returning to his crease, he decided to hit Brett on the backside. I have no idea why he did it,” Symonds was quoted as saying by the Herald Sun newspaper of Australia.

"I was standing nearby and when I saw what happened, I thought, 'Hold on, that's not on'. I'm a firm believer in sticking up for your team-mate so I stepped in and had a bit of a crack at Harbhajan, telling him exactly what I thought of his antics. He then had a shot back, which brings us to the situation we're facing."

So here he claims that Bhajji was having a crack at Lee, so he steps in to stand up for his team mate.

Then in the latest hearing he says this:

MR SYMONDS: Did I have an objection to it – my objection was that a test match is
no place to be friendly with an opposition player, is my objection.”

Now he is saying that a Test match is not a friendly place to be, which is why he did what he did. :|

Bhajji is a batsard, Symmo is no less.

furry, you do understand that all the testimony in the second hearing was scaled down to allow the charge to be down-graded. I gave you more credit . . . .

Symonds was told what to say.Is that hard for you to understand.And of course Harby is such a nice guy,he could only be giving Lee credit.Wonder why he didn't say well bowled to KP when he bowled him,instead of telling him to ****off?

tac wrote:furry, you do understand that all the testimony in the second hearing was scaled down to allow the charge to be down-graded. I gave you more credit . . . .

Don't get patronizing on me tac, I gave you more credit....

How does the testimony being scaled down have an impact on Symmo's explanation for why he started this? And why does it vary so much?

Before anyone else jumps in, let me repeat (ad nauseaum): IMO Symmo has shown more class than Bhajji when he took him aside the first time this happened.

noelene wrote:Symonds was told what to say.Is that hard for you to understand.And of course Harby is such a nice guy,he could only be giving Lee credit.Wonder why he didn't say well bowled to KP when he bowled him,instead of telling him to ****off?

Bhajji is a dcikhead. But his initial gesture to Lee has been accepted as such- not just by me.

Edit: So Symmo was told to change his reason for why he sledged Lee? :|

noelene wrote:Symonds was told what to say.Is that hard for you to understand.And of course Harby is such a nice guy,he could only be giving Lee credit.Wonder why he didn't say well bowled to KP when he bowled him,instead of telling him to ****off?

symmo is not the sharpest tool in the kit even by QBilly standards...even if told what to say, I doubt he would remember it

tac wrote:

embee wrote:Phurt , tac ...Punter is fine as long as things are going his way ...Spits the dummy pretty quick when they don't ...His plan B is to re try plan A ...always has been ...great batsman ...captain of a great team ...

He doesn't like losing and he has the weakest/inexperienced bowling attacks of any captain since poor old Grumpy. He's had to try a lot more in the field that Waugh ever had to . . . especially when he has spinners like MacKnob and Hogggyyy!!!! getting spanked and he can't overbowl Bing in case he becomes Bung again.

But adversity is exactly where good captaincy should take over.

...and it has...

noelene wrote:Symonds was told what to say.Is that hard for you to understand.And of course Harby is such a nice guy,he could only be giving Lee credit.Wonder why he didn't say well bowled to KP when he bowled him,instead of telling him to ****off?

He said it not because KP had bowled him but because he was trying to get Harbhajan to GTFO. And Harbhajan asked him to shove it. Plus, as furri said, he's a dickhead.

doremi wrote:

tac wrote:

embee wrote:Phurt , tac ...Punter is fine as long as things are going his way ...Spits the dummy pretty quick when they don't ...His plan B is to re try plan A ...always has been ...great batsman ...captain of a great team ...

He doesn't like losing and he has the weakest/inexperienced bowling attacks of any captain since poor old Grumpy. He's had to try a lot more in the field that Waugh ever had to . . . especially when he has spinners like MacKnob and Hogggyyy!!!! getting spanked and he can't overbowl Bing in case he becomes Bung again.

But adversity is exactly where good captaincy should take over.

Ummm, that's what I'm saying . . . Punter has had to try a lot more options and use his players more cleverly than Waugh ever had to.