ICC looking at tiered Test status?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23366987-23212,00.html

One plan being mooted to increase the competitiveness of Test cricket would see the top seven nations cut off from the bottom three with promotion and relegation between the two groups.

Can't see it happening but if it did I don't see how it would improve competitiveness, the team who is eigth on the rankings will slaughter the Zimmers, Bangers and whoever else and then move back up, allowing another team to boost their stats.

More importantly, only playing minnows for a year or two would bankrupt most of the cricket boards.

Ross wrote:http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23366987-23212,00.html

Can't see it happening but if it did I don't see how it would improve competitiveness, the team who is eigth on the rankings will slaughter the Zimmers, Bangers and whoever else and then move back up, allowing another team to boost their stats.

More importantly, only playing minnows for a year or two would bankrupt most of the cricket boards.

If you do it you probably need three divisions.

1, 2, 3, 4

5, 6

7, 8, 9, 10

You play everyone in your division. Teams 5 and 6 also play against teams 7 and 8 and half the teams from the top division.

It ensures a team like the West Indies doesn't spend two years only playing minnows - they'd also get matches against proper test sides.

roebuck has called for two divisions - five in the top division and the rest in div 2...Oz, India, Pakistan and Sth Africa pretty much pick themselves with the 5th spot up for grabs between WI, NZ and England..

Div 2 could also include 3rd tier countries - kenya, holland and ireland..

T20 rights should provide enough money for all, inc those in 2nd division

You'll need a more simple and clear-cut ranking system than the one now for all of that to happen.

And if they want tiered divisions in test cricket, the best option would be to have the top 8 teams in one tier and have teams like Ireland and Kenya added to the 2nd tier with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

At the end of the 'season' the bottom two in the 1st tier play the top 2 in the 2nd, and the 2 best teams to come out of that 'play-off' are promoted to the 1st tier again.

good in theory but never gonna happen. there would've been no ashes series throughout the 90s if that was the case - or no ind/pak series....fans wont buy it. test cricket is already so elitist in terms of the no of teams, cant see how further segregation can help

Ash wrote:good in theory but never gonna happen. there would've been no ashes series throughout the 90s if that was the case - or no ind/pak series....fans wont buy it. test cricket is already so elitist in terms of the no of teams, cant see how further segregation can help

How many Pak/Ind series were there in the 90's

taipan wrote:

Ash wrote:good in theory but never gonna happen. there would've been no ashes series throughout the 90s if that was the case - or no ind/pak series....fans wont buy it. test cricket is already so elitist in terms of the no of teams, cant see how further segregation can help

How many Pak/Ind series were there in the 90's

One 3 match series

And if they want tiered divisions in test cricket, the best option would be to have the top 8 teams in one tier and have teams like Ireland and Kenya added to the 2nd tier with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Agreed. That would be the best system. But it would also mean that the ICC would have to scrap its future tours program, as obviously the team that is promoted isn't going to stay in the top tier long enough for them to play against every test nation home and away. I don't think the ICC will give up the future tours program, as it would mean that the boards of teams like India, England, and Australia could refuse to play the likes of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe altogether, as they're basically a tv ratings disaster.

Would be fun if in a 2 tiered system India had a bad run like in 2004-05 and 2006-07 and ended up bottom of the lot and got relegated or demoted accordingly.........

Wouldn't ICC just collapse with a cardiac arrest?

Why not just ax the crap teams and the subi teams and let NZ, Eng, SA and Aus play real cricket and India and SL bash the minnows. The WI can choose which way they want to go.

Duck! you've just call Pakistan a minnow team!

No, it's just tac with his 'us' vs 'them' complex.

Cricket would be more fair and watchable if the Aussies were excluded, well this forum would benefit atleast.

tac wrote:Why not just ax the crap teams and the subi teams and let NZ, Eng, SA and Aus play real cricket and India and SL bash the minnows. The WI can choose which way they want to go.

We have all seen how much 'real' cricket OZ played against Kiwis, Saffis and Pommies as compared to India alone the last decade.....

Perhaps all you want is to play cricket against sides that let you steamroll them without a fight?




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The ICC can feck right off.

Thats all I have to say on the matter

WIFAN wrote:The ICC can feck right off.

Thats all I have to say on the matter

Why? Surely it's an incentive to try and get better ASAP?

Yes but it would destroy West Indies cricket.

The ICC bankrupted the WICB when they changed the revenue sharing system for home tours a few years ago.

Taking away our main form of revenue in tours by India, England and Australia will just destroy us completely.

It wont happen anyway, not when the BCCI is enjoying the support of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and the West Indies. They wont want to alienate that support.

The president of the WICB is adamant that he wont allow it to happen.

Threats to West Indies Cricket

Batman wrote:

tac wrote:Why not just ax the crap teams and the subi teams and let NZ, Eng, SA and Aus play real cricket and India and SL bash the minnows. The WI can choose which way they want to go.

We have all seen how much 'real' cricket OZ played against Kiwis, Saffis and Pommies as compared to India alone the last decade.....

Perhaps all you want is to play cricket against sides that let you steamroll them without a fight?

Yet look at how few threats to stop tours, forfeit games, kick out umpires and match referees and how few ball-tampering incidents there have been. Leaving you sooks and cheats to go your own way would be best.

The two tiers are a good idea but only BD and Zim should be relegated for now.

The West Indies are too important to the game to not include at the top level unless we get to a point where there is absolutely no alternative. We are some way from that now and i pray that we never get there.

This is a bad idea. It would see the death of cricket in the second tier countries.