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Post by Basil Sat 09 Aug 2008, 11:44

Sky have just shown a graphic, which purports to show Harmy's fastest ball in SA's first innings as 86 mph, yet I would swear that, according to the 1st innings highlights he bowled balls at 90+mph at aound the time he took his 2 in 2.
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Post by JKLever Sat 09 Aug 2008, 11:49

93mph the Yorker that got Amla, 1st inns.
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Post by Basil Sat 09 Aug 2008, 11:51

JKLever wrote:93mph the Yorker that got Amla, 1st inns.

Could be human error I suppose, but you'd have to think that, it's a case of press the right button and the info. should be there.
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Post by Gary 111 Sat 09 Aug 2008, 11:57

I'm not convinced the speed guns are that accurate - more of a gimmick for the crowd.

Will go back to the speed gun for the 20/20 quarter final last month which had Gough at 90.7mph FFS!

Wasn't just a one-off blip either, several balls came up as 88mph, 89mph. How can Gough be faster now than he was 10 years ago - something is wrong somewhere?!
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 09 Aug 2008, 12:02

The speed gun picks up the white ball as travelling a good 2-3 mph quicker for all bowlers compared to what they clock with the red ball.

Good fun I suppose, and probably gives you some idea of a comparison between bowlers on any given day, but beyond that I'm not all that convinced.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 09 Aug 2008, 12:06

Crank it up, throw it away.
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Post by Gary 111 Sat 09 Aug 2008, 12:07

I'd love to have a bowl against a speed gun though, see how fast it says I am bowling...!
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Post by PeterCS Sat 09 Aug 2008, 12:09

You could crank it up, to show you you were bowling faster than Dazzler.
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Post by PearlJ Sat 09 Aug 2008, 12:18

It's not that accurate, but it's a good general guide.
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Post by JGK Sat 09 Aug 2008, 13:06

I remember when FIGJAM bowled the alleged 100mph ball in the 2003 WC - the England batsman (Fairbrother maybe) played it comfortably to midwicket.

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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 09 Aug 2008, 13:08

It was Nick Knight.
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Post by JGK Sat 09 Aug 2008, 13:12

Thanks.

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Post by JKLever Sat 09 Aug 2008, 13:13

And the show pony celebrated like it was actually worth anything.
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Post by filosofee Sat 09 Aug 2008, 13:18

Basil wrote:Sky have just shown a graphic, which purports to show Harmy's fastest ball in SA's first innings as 86 mph, yet I would swear that, according to the 1st innings highlights he bowled balls at 90+mph at aound the time he took his 2 in 2.

TMS reported the to-Amla fantastic ball as over 90.
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Post by Ash Sun 10 Aug 2008, 03:07

JKLever wrote:And the show pony celebrated like it was actually worth anything.

well we're talking about it over 5 yrs on...!
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sun 10 Aug 2008, 07:02

Shoaib to Fleming in the 1999 semi was probably the fastest ball that i have ever seen(it was clocked around 95 mph)
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sun 10 Aug 2008, 07:03

you don't need to look at the speed gun to tell if the guy is bowling fast or not
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Post by PeterCS Mon 11 Aug 2008, 00:27

Turn Crank it up.



You can also ask the batsman ..
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Post by Henry Mon 11 Aug 2008, 00:52

Over a period of time, I think the speed gun gives you a general sense as to how fast a guy is bowling. But all of the fastest balls do seem to be recorded in the shorter forms of the game. I guess it's something to do with the bowlers knowing they only have 10/4 overs to bowl in the day.
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Mon 11 Aug 2008, 00:56

I think the white ball just gets clocked at higher speeds than a red ball travelling at the same velocity for some reason.

I can't believe that a quick bowler wouldn't be more motivated, and not have the adrenalin coursing through their veins more freely in the midst of a key moment of a tight, crucial Test match than they do in some ten-a-penny JAMODI. shrug
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Post by Zat Mon 11 Aug 2008, 07:49

There was a Bung delivery once clocked at the Gabba, in a Test IIRC, at 164km/h. It went unnoticed by the commentators, and I don't think anyone said anything until it turned up on a DVD of highlihts.

It was then dismissed as 'technical error'.

Given that HawkEye tracks the ball the length of the pitch, I believe it can be used to give a much more accurate analysis of delivery speed.

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Post by Don't quote me Mon 11 Aug 2008, 11:58

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:I think the white ball just gets clocked at higher speeds than a red ball travelling at the same velocity for some reason.

I can't believe that a quick bowler wouldn't be more motivated, and not have the adrenalin coursing through their veins more freely in the midst of a key moment of a tight, crucial Test match than they do in some ten-a-penny JAMODI. shrug

True but a test match is usally only 'on the line' in maybe days 3,4 or 5 no way a bowler can be as fresh, as in a l'td overs international.

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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:27

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:I think the white ball just gets clocked at higher speeds than a red ball travelling at the same velocity for some reason.
I shall have the ute painted red and test your theory as soon as possible.
You WILL pay the speeding fine, won't you . . . ?
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