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Post by Henry Sat 06 Oct 2007, 03:08

Yuvraj is a cleaner striker of the ball than those 3 you mentioned, tac. He honestly gives the impression that he can hit sixes at will with a flick of the wrists.
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Post by doremi Sat 06 Oct 2007, 21:29

Yuvraj's batting is absolutely majestic when he's in flow.

But how comfortable will anyone be with a line-up with Yuvi and Dhoni at 6 and 7, and Sehwag opening, which I'm sure he'll do in the near future. If they can pull it off - brilliant, if they can't - we're in deep shit. Flashes of the temperament required for test cricket were shown in one of the tour matches in England. If he can keep it going, one of Ganguly and Laxman would have to make way.
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Post by Chivalry Augustus Sat 06 Oct 2007, 21:38

Yuvraj is an over-rated cowlasher. Can't play the moving ball - he's a long way away from the subdued genius of Dravid, the class of Tendulkar, the touch of Laxman or the orgasmic elegance of Ganguly. And even those four are a long way past it. One ODI hundred and 6x6 in an over don't change these facts; he was scoring ODI hundreds when he was failing in Tests before, and six-sixes, whilst impressive, doesn't indicate that he has anything like the temperament to succeed in Tests.

The likes of Ponting, Hayden & KP are batsman, not sloggers. They know how to play Test Cricket as if they were born to it. Yuvraj doesn't, and he has a lot to do to prove otherwise.
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Post by doremi Sat 06 Oct 2007, 21:50

The only thing going against Yuvraj is his temperament and maybe his problems with quality spin. It's absolute bull-shit to say he's a slogger. Talent-wise he's right up there with any young batsman in the world now.
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Post by Ash Sat 06 Oct 2007, 22:12

if you think yuvraj is a slogger you obviously dont know your cricket. and the same goes to the guy who said hayden is a touch player. even ponting and KP's game is based more on power. im not saying that yuvraj is anywhere near as good a batsman as ponting et al but i stand by my original statement that no other batsman combines power and elegance to such good effect.

also, its a myth that yuvraj cant score runs on seaming tracks. his 2 test tons in pakistan came on seaming wickets with india 5 down for not much. he hasnt had an extended run in the test side and, at 25, its not right to say he has failed in tests. however, he does have a problem against quality spin which he needs to work on.

he must be in the test side.
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Post by SG Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:06

Well said, Ash.

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Post by tac Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:15

Ash wrote:if you think yuvraj is a slogger you obviously dont know your cricket. and the same goes to the guy who said hayden is a touch player. even ponting and KP's game is based more on power. im not saying that yuvraj is anywhere near as good a batsman as ponting et al but i stand by my original statement that no other batsman combines power and elegance to such good effect.

also, its a myth that yuvraj cant score runs on seaming tracks. his 2 test tons in pakistan came on seaming wickets with india 5 down for not much. he hasnt had an extended run in the test side and, at 25, its not right to say he has failed in tests. however, he does have a problem against quality spin which he needs to work on.

he must be in the test side.

Ponting's game based on power . . . snigger.

Hayden not a touch player . . . snigger.

No other batsman combines power and elegance to such good effect . . . double snigger.

It's obvious you've never really bothered to watch other batsmen.
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Post by Josh Carney Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:32

I am still not convinced that Yuvraj's technique will pass the test of "tests" against good teams. However it is time to move out the big old names, actually it has been that way for 2-3 years, just that it is so hard in the Indian cricketing establishment or any establishment to replace yesterday's heroes.

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Post by embee Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:34

"I am still not convinced that Yuvraj's technique will pass the test of "tests" against good teams."

My guess is it probably wont ...but we'll never know if he isn't given a chance to prove himself
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Post by Josh Carney Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:45

The few times I have seen in tests he has not given a good account of himself. A bit too loost outside the off for me, something he is able to get away in the shorter forms.

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Post by doremi Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:47

That'll be where temperament comes in. He'll have to curb a few shots, atleast early on in the innings.
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Post by SG Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:51

Yuvraj's technique will pass the test of "tests" against good teams.
Karthik's is streaky throughout his innings, didn't stop him to emerge as best run score for India in tests against Eng.

Technique is not everything, otherwise Sanjay Manjrekar would've been best ever bat or Sehwag won't've been averaging almost 50 in test cricket.

You don't need just technique to make runs in int'l cricket.

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Post by embee Thu 10 Jan 2008, 04:57

Henry wrote:I've always thought Yuvraj was an outstanding talent, and some of his strokeplay is reminiscent of Garry Sobers. Obviously he hasnt achieved the same success as Sobers, but I really think it's time India considered dropping Laxman from the test team and playing Yuvraj. He gives India an X factor not just with his batting, but he's very good in the field as well.

His time has come.

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Post by Zat Thu 10 Jan 2008, 04:58

mb, you bastard. That's just cruel. But funny as hell. Trev is such a great judge.

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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Thu 10 Jan 2008, 04:58

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Post by tac Thu 10 Jan 2008, 04:59

Noice . . . it's always fun to go back and remind the someof the spankmonkey's of the dribble they have posted.
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Post by Invader Zim Thu 10 Jan 2008, 04:59

LOL, awesome work MB Very Happy
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Post by *Buckaroo* Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:00

embee wrote:
Henry wrote:I've always thought Yuvraj was an outstanding talent, and some of his strokeplay is reminiscent of Garry Sobers. Obviously he hasnt achieved the same success as Sobers, but I really think it's time India considered dropping Laxman from the test team and playing Yuvraj. He gives India an X factor not just with his batting, but he's very good in the field as well.

His time has come.

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Post by Invader Zim Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:00

So what's his Test average now? 30? After 20 odd Tests?
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Post by Zat Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:01

*Buckaroo* wrote:Sadist
Afraid someone'll go back through your posts and point out some of the howlers you've made?

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Post by *Buckaroo* Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:01

Zat wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:Sadist
Afraid someone'll go back through your posts and point out some of the howlers you've made?

Not a single one. I have never made a mistake in my predictions.
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Post by Henry Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:02

He'll be back. He's not the first batsmen to ever be out of form.
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Post by Zat Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:04

*Buckaroo* wrote:
Zat wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:Sadist
Afraid someone'll go back through your posts and point out some of the howlers you've made?

Not a single one. I have never made a mistake in my predictions.
We'll see, but then again, you don't seem to make many predictions. You do, however post lots of crap about New World Orders and helicopters buzzing your paranoid palace.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:06

how is that a howler ?


All my predictions of the New World Order thread are spot on. I don't shoot blanks.
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Post by Zat Thu 10 Jan 2008, 05:08

Look, it's not fair to take the attention away from Trev's howler like this...

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