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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 06:21

and how can England/Pakistan beat them this winter?



I certainly think that they have almost all their areas covered

Opening- Two Delhi dynamites who not only score quickly but can also take the game away from the opposition in half an hour to 45 minutes.

Middle Order- Dravid has been poor but Laxman and Sachin are still going fairly strong and will be a serious force against Pakistan.

Keeping- Very solid keeper who is a fairly capable batsman as well.

Spin bowling- Nothing outstanding like Murali or Warne but still fairly decent bowlers who can win matches on spinning tracks

Fast bowling- One of the best bowler in the world(Sharma) supported by a highly competent and vastly experienced ZAK.

Only issue is the captaincy but i am quite sure that Kumble will quit before the series against PAK


So can a really rusty Pakistani/English team under the captaincy of romeo Malik/ Kp beat them?

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Post by The One Thu 30 Oct 2008, 06:24

they can probably beat india, any of the top 6 teams can beat the other. but it would certainly be an upset if they do

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Post by SG Thu 30 Oct 2008, 06:36

Is India the most "complete" team in the world?


No way.

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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 06:41

SG wrote:Is India the most "complete" team in the world?


No way.
who is more complete?

SL- Missing a top...order
AUS- No spinner
SA- No spinner
ENG- Keeper issue

Not saying that IND is a better team than all of them(not yet) but they do seem to have almost all areas covered while other teams have clear weaknesses.
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Post by SG Thu 30 Oct 2008, 06:45

Even though our overseas cricket has improved beyond recognition, I'd still say lets see how we play on overseas trips.

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Post by The One Thu 30 Oct 2008, 07:14

india's strongest suit of the last decade - the middle order, is going to be a cause for concern in 2 years. rest looks pretty settled, for now

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Post by Red Thu 30 Oct 2008, 07:15

India's potential weakness is that its whole middle-order is ong in the tooth and retirement could be imminent for a couple. India may well have some tyros to take their place but that's not necessarily a given.
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Post by philcric Thu 30 Oct 2008, 07:21

The One wrote:india's strongest suit of the last decade - the middle order, is going to be a cause for concern in 2 years. rest looks pretty settled, for now

Sachin and Laxman look alright for the time-being. Dravid is a worry. If Rohit Sharma does justice to his obvious talent, then MO is not a concern atleast in the near future.
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Post by The One Thu 30 Oct 2008, 07:35

philcric wrote:
The One wrote:india's strongest suit of the last decade - the middle order, is going to be a cause for concern in 2 years. rest looks pretty settled, for now

Sachin and Laxman look alright for the time-being. Dravid is a worry. If Rohit Sharma does justice to his obvious talent, then MO is not a concern atleast in the near future.

yeah, thats why i said 2 years. laxman should last at least that long

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Post by philcric Thu 30 Oct 2008, 07:46

Ah Ok. I read it wrong.
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Post by OP Tipping Thu 30 Oct 2008, 08:46

Right now they look it.
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Post by Merlin Thu 30 Oct 2008, 08:52


Is India the most "complete" team in the world.

On home turf, almost invincible.
But otherwise - No.
Not by any stretch of the imagination.

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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 08:55

Merlin wrote:

Is India the most "complete" team in the world.

On home turf, almost invincible.
But otherwise - No.
Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Weren't they lucky to draw a home series against SA a few months ago.
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Post by Merlin Thu 30 Oct 2008, 09:06

taipan wrote:
Merlin wrote:

Is India the most "complete" team in the world.

On home turf, almost invincible.
But otherwise - No.
Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Weren't they lucky to draw a home series against SA a few months ago.
Aye, and they didn't exactly thrash a dishevelled England team in the last series here either...

Usual sh!t ... win a match ... dominate the next (on home turf which is expected) and the grossly OTT descriptions emerge.

"Complete" = winning 4 maybe 5 series home and away, on the trot in my book, and no way India will achieve that
(unless they show-horn Bangladesh, Zim, Pak and WIndies into the next 2 years)!!!

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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 30 Oct 2008, 09:39

Is India the most "complete" team in the world..

No question. Yes, they are.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Thu 30 Oct 2008, 09:44

Is India the most "complete" team in the world..

Yes, they are. by a long stretch.
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Post by Merlin Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:22

*Buckaroo* wrote:
Is India the most "complete" team in the world..

Yes, they are. by a long stretch of the imagination.

Fixed.

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Post by JKLever Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:25

They're a VERY good side.

But lets not go overboard.... it's not long ago fans were proclaiming 'who can stop us from being number 1' after they had lost a series!!! And then drew at home to SA when they needed to doctor the last test pitch to prevent a series loss....
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Post by The One Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:27

maybe people need to read the thread again. its not "is india the best team in the world" it is "is india the most complete team in the world"

they cover most bases, every other side seems to have a component thats missing

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Post by JKLever Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:28

Aye, only out and out pace is missing if you want an allround side...
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Post by taipan Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:32

JKLever wrote:Aye, only out and out pace is missing if you want an allround side...

And a captain.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:33

JKLever wrote:Aye, only out and out pace is missing if you want an allround side...

......... and where are the out & out pacemen on the list of wicket takers?
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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 30 Oct 2008, 10:36

The One wrote:maybe people need to read the thread again. its not "is india the best team in the world" it is "is india the most complete team in the world"

they cover most bases, every other side seems to have a component thats missing

India do have a component missing - i.e. the inability to win away from the subi but nevertheless they cover more bases than any other side.
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Post by The One Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:02

won in england and the windies. lost 2-1 in aus and south africa. cretainly improving, but yeah needs to win lots more series away to be a truly great side

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Post by doremi Thu 30 Oct 2008, 11:38

Middle order. Need atleast two replacements immediately (Ganguly and possibly Dravid), and no one really looks ready.
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