2 Perth tests v the saffies

Which result would you prefer?

in the the previous series Australia had a draw with our bowlers unable (with plenty of time) to get the Saffies out. Of course Hodge made a 200 and punter a 100. Punter and Hodge were roundly castigated here for Hodge being 'allowed' to get the double. In that match Hodge showed how to contruct an innings..he played the ball on its merits...without his contrib we may have lost that match

in the current series not one of the top six made a ton with many indolently failing to bother to construct a big knock after getting good starts (punter once, fleas 2ce, the kid 2ce and roy 2ce)...oh for the brad hodge knock of the previous series...we still may not have won because we only have one bowler, but we would have had more scoring pressure on the board and would have at least saved the draw.

Hodge's time has well and truly gone and no-one would argue for his selection...a little brazen's time never happened and never will...

but time has caught the careers of bunk, roy and mtb ...they have no recent form to recommend them..

the kid needs a massive rocket to remind him he does not have an auto right to play if he keeps failing to make the effort of constructing an innings...haddit too tossed his wicket 2ce with stoopid shots.

we must start selecting players on form and not on the basis of sponsors or which state they come from..

btw I would prefer that draw from the last series to the disgraceful and craven loss in the current series...the only good things to come out of the Perth test were-
*confirmation SA is a very good team and the better team won (all congrats to them)
*Midge and Haddit emerged with reputations enhanced
*we have clear basis to run the salts through the Oz Team and and the NSP

...woops forgot...2 more things...the WACA wicket is a pancake and perth should not get summer test matches

horace wrote:...woops forgot...2 more things...the WACA wicket is a pancake and perth should not get summer test matches

Yet the Shield matches regularly produce results.

true...but think the ACB and the worriers wanted the test to go 5 days..

the WA v Vic match produced a result with 2 bats (north and ranga rogers) getting tons in both innings, but other bats struggled to get in and prosper and there were some good bowling performances from both teams..

haddit too tossed his wicket 2ce with stoopid shots

Your bitterness and single-track-focus knows no bounds.

The first innings, sure, he got out stupidly, but in the second dig, he was trying to score as many as possible before Siddle, renowned rabbit, and LAST MAN IN fell. Had he been not out at the other end, you would have accused him of protecting his average as you often do with Steve Waugh.

A lot of the rest of your OP makes a degree of sense, but try to be objective sometimes. It'll do you - and your posts - the world of good.

do you want me to retract the comment I made above about haddin's reputation being enhanced???

also siddle batted well in the first dig and showed no sign of getting out in the second...i thought haddin threw his hand away when he was batting well, he had a ton at his mercy and all the time in the world...made not a jot to the result though...

it is ironic three of the tail that bailed out inadequate batting from the top six are at risk of losing their spots

Just thought it a bit harsh to apportion any blame Haddin's way in the second innings.

He had a century at his mercy? WIth Siddle at the other end? FFS...

of course he had...siddle was batting safely...still as I said haddin's 2nd dismissal made no difference to the result

horace wrote:do you want me to retract the comment I made above about haddin's reputation being enhanced???

also siddle batted well in the first dig and showed no sign of getting out in the second...i thought haddin threw his hand away when he was batting well, he had a ton at his mercy and all the time in the world...made not a jot to the result though...

it is ironic three of the tail that bailed out inadequate batting from the top six are at risk of losing their spots

Maybe because they prospered in the opposite discipline. It's interesting to note that Symonds is probably picked as a #6 batsman because they expect him to have an effect with the ball and we're obsessed, since Flintoff, with playing some sort of all-rounder. SA reverted to specialists, yet while their tail was a problem, it ultimately bore fruit for them.

Surely the negatives now outweigh the positives with Symonds? Especially seeing as Ponting gave him 3 overs for the entire match, and none in the second innings. Surely he must have been injured? I just can't imagine Ponting not even giving him a try for a few overs. Mind numingly incomprehensible.

Symonds positives- Aggressive and intimidating batting when it comes off.

Excellent fielding.

Symonds negatives- A dodgy as hell temperement. Apparently Paul Harris subtly threw a few sledges his way at Perth, and look what happened- Symonds holed out trying to hit him into Fremantle.

A problem with alcohol, and an anti establishment attitude that is pissing his teammates off.

Not the greatest batting technique in the world. When he's hot, he's really hot, but too often he looks uncomfortable and somewhat out of his depth.

There are probably 3 batsmen in Aus domestic cricket who are better than Symonds- David Hussey, Marcus North, and Chris Rogers.

When was the last time Aus lost 2 consecutive tests at Perth in the ame calender year?

Henry wrote:Surely the negatives now outweigh the positives with Symonds? Especially seeing as Ponting gave him 3 overs for the entire match, and none in the second innings. Surely he must have been injured? I just can't imagine Ponting not even giving him a try for a few overs. Mind numingly incomprehensible.

Symonds positives- Aggressive and intimidating batting when it comes off.

Excellent fielding.

Symonds negatives- A dodgy as hell temperement. Apparently Paul Harris subtly threw a few sledges his way at Perth, and look what happened- Symonds holed out trying to hit him into Fremantle.

A problem with alcohol, and an anti establishment attitude that is pissing his teammates off.

Not the greatest batting technique in the world. When he's hot, he's really hot, but too often he looks uncomfortable and somewhat out of his depth.

There are probably 3 batsmen in Aus domestic cricket who are better than Symonds- David Hussey, Marcus North, and Chris Rogers.

cripes me in agreement with Mudge shocka...next he will recognise the vast potential shermanator bell offers english and and international cricket