Is Michael Vaughan slowly destroying English Cricket?

Points to make why this might be true...


-Hangs around the dressing rooms even when not selected.
-Poor Form (cricketing terms hasn't aided the rest of the batting order)
-Caused a ruckus between current captain and current coach
-Chooses friends over players who deserve a spot (held back English cricket on a selection aspect since 2005)
-Bad repetitive PR for English Cricket (We'll have a bat, get some runs on the board, put them under pressure (at every toss), search for the positives)
-Lowers morale in County Cricket because players can play amazingly for a whole season to only get into the ODI squad, thanks to Vaughan. Nowhere near the test squad.

DJ_Smerk wrote:Points to make why this might be true...


-Hangs around the dressing rooms even when not selected.
-Poor Form (cricketing terms hasn't aided the rest of the batting order)
-Caused a ruckus between current captain and current coach
-Chooses friends over players who deserve a spot (held back English cricket on a selection aspect since 2005)
-Bad repetitive PR for English Cricket (We'll have a bat, get some runs on the board, put them under pressure (at every toss), search for the positives)
-Lowers morale in County Cricket because players can play amazingly for a whole season to only get into the ODI squad, thanks to Vaughan. Nowhere near the test squad.

Has Merlin put you up to this?

No. But Peter Moores is.

No-one has ever PM'd me about anything.


I'm just concerned that theres a lot of problems in cricket and Vaughan appears to be at the centre of them.

Basil wrote:

DJ_Smerk wrote:Points to make why this might be true...


-Hangs around the dressing rooms even when not selected.
-Poor Form (cricketing terms hasn't aided the rest of the batting order)
-Caused a ruckus between current captain and current coach
-Chooses friends over players who deserve a spot (held back English cricket on a selection aspect since 2005)
-Bad repetitive PR for English Cricket (We'll have a bat, get some runs on the board, put them under pressure (at every toss), search for the positives)
-Lowers morale in County Cricket because players can play amazingly for a whole season to only get into the ODI squad, thanks to Vaughan. Nowhere near the test squad.

Has Merlin put you up to this?

Promise Guv'nor, haven't said a word to 'im ...

Smart lad is our Smerky, astute and visionary !
Spotted Vorn as a self-serving egotist and a control freak.

If it's not only Michael Vaughan, then its a combination of Moores/Fletcher and Vaughan.

Is it time for English Cricket to let Vaughan go?

Or are we still that clingy that we need his "captaincy and tactical skills".

We need his 'beautiful stroke play' because that is how the game is played and won. However, this has deserted him for now...

MPV also caused Lehmann Brothers to fail, and has been seen behind a rocket launcher in the Gaza.

Basil wrote:MPV also caused Lehmann Brothers to fail, and has been seen behind a rocket launcher in the Gaza.

Well its not just English Cricket he's destroying then...

Fark me.

Vaughan stood down the best part of half a year ago as the most successful Test captain in English history.

Since then he has gone back to being a foot soldier and is now trying to force his way back into the side as a player.

Nothing wrong with that if he feels he has something to offer, and quite right that he should continue to do so until someone tells him that he definitely hasn't.

If the fact that he is doing that causes problems within the dressing room or the wider England camp in general, then that is a fault of management, not the player.

Step forward and take a bow Peter Mooronic.

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Fark me.

Vaughan stood down the best part of half a year ago as the most successful Test captain in English history.

Since then he has gone back to being a foot soldier and is now trying to force his way back into the side as a player.

Nothing wrong with that if he feels he has something to offer, and quite right that he should continue to do so until someone tells him that he definitely hasn't.

If the fact that he is doing that causes problems within the dressing room or the wider England camp in general, then that is a fault of management, not the player.

Step forward and take a bow Peter Mooronic.

Points validly noted BBB, but the next coach of England needs a bit of nous and a pair of gonads to tell Vaughan when he is not needed.

Seems Moores doesn't have the guts to tell Vaughan to Fark off out the dressing room when he isn't even selected.

...........A man answering his desription was seen behind the grassy knoll in Dallas in November 1963,

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Fark me.

Vaughan stood down the best part of half a year ago as the most successful Test captain in English history.

Since then he has gone back to being a foot soldier and is now trying to force his way back into the side as a player.

Nothing wrong with that if he feels he has something to offer, and quite right that he should continue to do so until someone tells him that he definitely hasn't.

If the fact that he is doing that causes problems within the dressing room or the wider England camp in general, then that is a fault of management, not the player.

Step forward and take a bow Peter Mooronic.

Sage.

The barsteward's responsible for the leak from the bathroom into our kitchen

I notice he turned up in India and the Caribbean for various reasons when he wasn't with the main squad. He was also seen to be a rather deleterious influence during the last Ashes tour downunder.

English cricket in crisis.

At least the Australian team has a captain doing his best to f*ck the team over while in the top job...