Foreign selectors?

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:47

Why only foreign coaches? why not foreign selectors?

this will be especially useful in countries like Pakistan where the sifarish system is a big problem.

by Zat Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:50

Wasn't Rod Marsh an England Selector at some stage of his tenure there?

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:51

i am not sure

Was he?

by Zat Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:53

I'm not sure, which is why I put it as a question.

by Guest Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:54

I may be wrong, but I don't think so... as far as I know he just ran the academy. Of course, he may have had hidden input.

by Chandan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:56

PlanetPakistan wrote:Why only foreign coaches? why not foreign selectors?

this will be especially useful in countries like Pakistan where the sifarish system is a big problem.

And how do you think that foreign selectors will be able to avoid that 'sifarish' system if they are employed by PCB and the sifarish is that from one the board members?

by Zat Sat 10 Jan 2009, 06:58

According to crocinfo's profile:

Taking his talents abroad in 2002, Marsh was teased by his former team-mates for accepting the director's role of the old enemy's new National Academy. A year later one of the toughest men to play for Australia was appointed an England selector,

There you go.

by Guest Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:02

Zat wrote:According to crocinfo's profile:
Taking his talents abroad in 2002, Marsh was teased by his former team-mates for accepting the director's role of the old enemy's new National Academy. A year later one of the toughest men to play for Australia was appointed an England selector,
There you go.

So Geraint Jones is all his fault then...

I could go back and edit my earlier post, so that I do not look stupid...

But I already have, 600+ times... oh well. To be fair, he couldn't possibly make as big of a hash as our current gang of selectors have.

by Zat Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:03

Pssst! PP - you might want to fix the spelling error in the title. Some people get narky about things like that.

by taipan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:06

Not sure if Woolmer was a SA selector.

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:14

Zat wrote:Pssst! PP - you might want to fix the spelling error in the title. Some people get narky about things like that.

it was a lot of work but i did it becuze you are a nice guy.

by Zat Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:15

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Zat wrote:Pssst! PP - you might want to fix the spelling error in the title. Some people get narky about things like that.
it was a lot of work but i did it becuze you are a nice guy.

Just don't say that too loudly, lots of people here won't believe you.

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:16

Chandan wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Why only foreign coaches? why not foreign selectors?

this will be especially useful in countries like Pakistan where the sifarish system is a big problem.

And how do you think that foreign selectors will be able to avoid that 'sifarish' system if they are employed by PCB and the sifarish is that from one the board members?

foreign selector is most likely NOT going to have any liking/disliking issue to begin with.

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:17

Zat wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
Zat wrote:Pssst! PP - you might want to fix the spelling error in the title. Some people get narky about things like that.
it was a lot of work but i did it becuze you are a nice guy.
Just don't say that too loudly, lots of people here won't believe you.

don't worry i was kidding about the nice part

by Guest Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:18

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Zat wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
Zat wrote:Pssst! PP - you might want to fix the spelling error in the title. Some people get narky about things like that.
it was a lot of work but i did it becuze you are a nice guy.
Just don't say that too loudly, lots of people here won't believe you.
don't worry i was kidding about the nice part

And the guy part...

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:21

Clamson wrote:

And the guy part...

thats the part which wasn't suppose to said out loud...

by Chandan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:21

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Chandan wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Why only foreign coaches? why not foreign selectors?

this will be especially useful in countries like Pakistan where the sifarish system is a big problem.

And how do you think that foreign selectors will be able to avoid that 'sifarish' system if they are employed by PCB and the sifarish is that from one the board members?
foreign selector is most likely NOT going to have any liking/disliking issue to begin with.

I'm not talking about liking or disliking of that selector. What'll happen if the chairman of PCB, say, tells him to include his son...and that kind of sifarish? How will that stop?

You have to clean up the system instead to get rid of these corruptions.

by The One Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:27

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Chandan wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Why only foreign coaches? why not foreign selectors?

this will be especially useful in countries like Pakistan where the sifarish system is a big problem.

And how do you think that foreign selectors will be able to avoid that 'sifarish' system if they are employed by PCB and the sifarish is that from one the board members?
foreign selector is most likely NOT going to have any liking/disliking issue to begin with.

will he have enough time to travel to FC matches all over pak? thats the main job of selectors anyways, the core team always picks itself

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:30

Chandan wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
Chandan wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:Why only foreign coaches? why not foreign selectors?

this will be especially useful in countries like Pakistan where the sifarish system is a big problem.

And how do you think that foreign selectors will be able to avoid that 'sifarish' system if they are employed by PCB and the sifarish is that from one the board members?
foreign selector is most likely NOT going to have any liking/disliking issue to begin with.

I'm not talking about liking or disliking of that selector. What'll happen if the chairman of PCB, say, tells him to include his son...and that kind of sifarish? How will that stop?

You have to clean up the system instead to get rid of these corruptions.

obviously the chairman has to be honest to even make efforts to erase corruption at the lower levels...

by Chandan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:44

And if you expect Chairman to be honest, why can't you expect the selector to be honest?

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:48

The One wrote:

will he have enough time to travel to FC matches all over pak? thats the main job of selectors anyways, the core team always picks itself

i dont understand the question

why would he not have time?

Chandan wrote:And if you expect Chairman to be honest, why can't you expect the selector to be honest?

who says i am expecting the chairman to be honest?
especially after how DNA behaved.

by PlanetPakistan Sat 10 Jan 2009, 07:50

problem with Pakistan is that we are a very corrupt country

Our president is known as Mr. 10% BECAUSE of his corruption...

and guess who appoints the PCB chairman?

by LeFromage Sat 10 Jan 2009, 19:36

Yes, England's selectors a few years ago were David Graveney (ENG), Geoff Miller (ENG), Duncan Fletcher (ZIM), Rod Marsh (AUS) and I think bowling coach Troy Cooley (AUS) also got an unofficial say as he was overlord for the entire bowling programme.

by Zat Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:20

It worked in 2005.

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