Australia v South Africa, 2nd ODI, Hobart, Jan 18

Scotch fillet, jacket spuds, avocado, vine-grown tomatoes. Maybe even a beer.

Boucher's first class average with the bat is 33, while little Morkel's is 43 with a highest score of 204*. Was much happier to see the incomparably horrible McKenzie plus fat Boucher make their way to the crease before the hitter.

Bracken just needs a haircut now.

lardbucket wrote:Scotch fillet, jacket spuds, avocado, vine-grown tomatoes. Maybe even a beer.

Red wrote:Bracken just needs a haircut now.

I'm amazed none of his teammates haven't told him how gay his headband looks.

I thought the plan with Morkel is that he goes in at the fall of the first wicket with the second new ball AND they take the PP at the same time.

That SHOULD be the plan.


Also, Jackie should bat at 6 - that might force him to score quicker.

Jackie is fast becoming the most boring batsman in world cricket (which seems to match his personality noicely ).

JGK wrote:Aust once again utterly out thought. Will be about 60 runs short here.

Since Bevan got dropped we seem to have forgotten how to knock the ball around into gaps. All the Aust batsmen should do is watch a tape of JPD's innings the other night.

Roight, had a chance to read the thread, and this is perhaps the sagest of the 6 pages. Very disappointing effort by the middle order. I thought all the batsman were guilty of smashing the ball to the field all innings.

Bevo was the master at nurdling through the field and Duminy does a pretty good impression. Paris's loss of form is hurting us in the middle overs.

skully wrote:Two pretty ordinary batting efforts today, I thought.

At 1-150 odd after 30 overs Aus should've easily nudged 300, but once again the middle order crabbed then threw their hands away. I'm not sure what SHYTYT is in the side for.

After having first use of the juice in the wicket, the Saffies should've doddled to the inadequate 250 target, but somehow contrived to crab themselves into a hole. If I didn't know better, I'd say John the Bookie demanded the series be all square going to Sydney.

A much improved death bowling effort by Aus. Ferny showed why he is ranked so highly in the JAMODI ratings and Milf held his nerve just long enough to get us home. I'm still not convinced he's the right man for the last few overs. I'd bowl him right through for his 10 and find someone else to bowl the last 3 from one end.

Oh, the game was so tedious during that Yarpie "chase" that I actually had time for an hour's sleep.

Right on all counts there Skullmeister. Marsh & Punter were the only effective bats for us. Even then, Marsh had too many dot balls against him & Punter threw his wicket away trying to lift the run rate. I agree about Hilfy. He is not a last over bowler. He should open the bowling & bowl right through.
Still a good day at the Cric though. Perfect weather, a full house & a close game. (and the Cascade was extra cold )

Good crowd, BD. Well done to the Tozzies. Pity the game wasn't more action packed. But at least the finish was exciting.

The pitch probably made the batting more boring than it had to. Interesting to hear some of the SA players say that they are surprised that our pitches have little in them for batsmen or bowlers. They never used to be that dead.

Amazing how Marsh has turned it around. Didn't look like make any runs for WA.

I've heard it's because the curator is producing traditional Test style WACA wickets for FC games, but shaves the bejezus out of the one and only Test track.

Not surprisingly, Bog and the other top order Wozzies find it a real challenge to survive a juicy Perth flyer.

Bog has the talent and I hope he and Warner develop the Gilly/Hayden style partnership. Bog being the fast accumulator and Warner being the mad slogger who comes off every 3 innings.

It's a disgrace that Warner has made an Aussie XI with so little behind him. Playing for your country before playing a FC game? Get FARKED.

Hard to argue Zim, but this is the era of short-attention-span cricket. The ranga lad has put together quite a few lightning innings at DOD and Big Bang (FFS) level + in his first JAMITT. While I agree that his credentials hardly rate international selection, he did perform at the MCG v Yarps to show that he is capable.

Let's give him one or two more chances to shine at the JAMODI/JAMITT level. With an ounce of patience, he may be the next Gilly at this form of the game.

Not surprisingly, Bog and the other top order Wozzies find it a real challenge to survive a juicy Perth flyer

So even though Hayden has retired, the FTB tradition continues?

skully wrote:I've heard it's because the curator is producing traditional Test style WACA wickets for FC games, but shaves the bejezus out of the one and only Test track.

Not surprisingly, Bog and the other top order Wozzies find it a real challenge to survive a juicy Perth flyer.

Bog has the talent and I hope he and Warner develop the Gilly/Hayden style partnership. Bog being the fast accumulator and Warner being the mad slogger who comes off every 3 innings.

It's not the fault of the pitch ...the useless qunts have no hearts ...Bog is playing JAMODIs for Oz and was the reserve in Banindia after Hattie farqued his back so he reckons he doesnt have to score runs for the wozzies ( even though this is what got him his IPL contract and his CA contract )

He has a "Mark Waugh" problem in the 70's ...gets bored and gets out

Maybe Shield and domestic cricket is tougher than playing international teams, hence Marsh struggling for WA.

Red wrote:Maybe Shield and domestic cricket is tougher than playing international teams, hence Marsh struggling for WA.

Yet Aus still got beaten by India and South Africa......

I think that the little Morkel is a little erratic with the ball at times, maybe they should think of replacing him with that Tsotsobe bloke, I thought he looked all right in his T20 debut. They need an extra frontline bowler to support Steyn who bowled the best he has all summer yesterday.

Red wrote:I think .....

you know its all blah blah bullshit after that opening

Red wrote:I think that the little Morkel is a little erratic with the ball at times, maybe they should think of replacing him with that Tsotsobe bloke, I thought he looked all right in his T20 debut. They need an extra frontline bowler to support Steyn who bowled the best he has all summer yesterday.

Yeah, good one Red. Drop the guy who single handledly won them the game in Melbourne.

Henry wrote:

Red wrote:I think that the little Morkel is a little erratic with the ball at times, maybe they should think of replacing him with that Tsotsobe bloke, I thought he looked all right in his T20 debut. They need an extra frontline bowler to support Steyn who bowled the best he has all summer yesterday.

Yeah, good one Red. Drop the guy who single handledly won them the game in Melbourne.

His best value is in his batting, he's a batting all-rounder whom the 'brains'trust is very reluctant to face many balls. I've noticed this trend right throughout his one day career. As I mentioned, his first class average is way superior to Boucher and the same as AB's but he doesn't get much of a go. If they're reluctant to bat him, why not play someone who's a better bowler? I can't see anything too illogical about that. He got to face extactly three overs in Melbourne and less than one over in Hobart; obviously they don't rate him highly enough as a batsman to trust him with more. Tsotsobe or even Parnell might be a better bet with the ball than the small Morkel and Parnell can bat as well. SA lacks boundary hitters in their ODI team but seems intent on playing crabs.

SA lacks boundary hitters in their ODI team but seems intent on playing crabs.

You're saying that they lack boundary hitters and yet you think they should drop Albie Morkel? Right....

Drop McKenzie, and bring in Van Jaarsveld. They should think about dropping Gibbs as well. He's not even scoring quickly these days.

Henry wrote:

SA lacks boundary hitters in their ODI team but seems intent on playing crabs.

You're saying that they lack boundary hitters and yet you think they should drop Albie Morkel? Right....

Drop McKenzie, and bring in Van Jaarsveld. They should think about dropping Gibbs as well. He's not even scoring quickly these days.

I think Albie's the only boundary hitter in the team but my point is that they don't use him as a batsman so you have to analyse the worth of his bowling and you'd have to rate Tsotsobe or Parnell for instance as potential better value with the ball. Albie's pace is too pedestrian for this level and only facing 23 balls so far this series suggests that they don't see him as a batsman.

Felt sorry for Steyn, he bowled brilliantly and bowled his heart out for his country but their fielding is so poor it just doesn't support him.

I think we need to bolster our bowling as well. Tait and maybe MJ will be back for Sydney which should see us home.

I don't think Vaughn VJ should come back unless SA really wants to go down the gurgler. He looks well short of international standard based on what he's offered so far in the field and with the bat - roly poly dud is what I heard people around the traps describing him as. Surely SA have some youngsters of better quality than him. And he went to the same school as McKenzie. And comes from this same franchise - the Lions, apparently. I've checked them out. They look to be a dud franchise which doesn't produce players for SA. A bit like the Redbacks for us.

Red wrote:

Henry wrote:

Red wrote:I think that the little Morkel is a little erratic with the ball at times, maybe they should think of replacing him with that Tsotsobe bloke, I thought he looked all right in his T20 debut. They need an extra frontline bowler to support Steyn who bowled the best he has all summer yesterday.

Yeah, good one Red. Drop the guy who single handledly won them the game in Melbourne.

His best value is in his batting, he's a batting all-rounder whom the 'brains'trust is very reluctant to face many balls. I've noticed this trend right throughout his one day career. As I mentioned, his first class average is way superior to Boucher and the same as AB's but he doesn't get much of a go. If they're reluctant to bat him, why not play someone who's a better bowler? I can't see anything too illogical about that. He got to face extactly three overs in Melbourne and less than one over in Hobart; obviously they don't rate him highly enough as a batsman to trust him with more. Tsotsobe or even Parnell might be a better bet with the ball than the small Morkel and Parnell can bat as well. SA lacks boundary hitters in their ODI team but seems intent on playing crabs.

You missed a space there Red