Re: The EPL thread (I)

by JKLever Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:42

You have pictures of Lamps in your bedroom. Admit it Lara...

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:42

Basically, before the FA and FIFA changed the footballs to the "Swerve-O-Matic" a year back, Lampard was damn class. You simply don't get pipped to European footballer of the year by Ronaldinho and shortlisted for World Footballer of the year if you're anything but world-class. It's not a popularity contest.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:43

:D

Meh. I'm just sick of the "Lampard is poo" bandwagon. It makes no sense and is completely idiotic.

by doremi Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:43

Add Zola to the greats who've played in the premiership.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:45

Batfink Begins wrote:Basically, before the FA and FIFA changed the footballs to the "Swerve-O-Matic" a year back, Lampard was damn class. You simply don't get pipped to European footballer of the year by Ronaldinho and shortlisted for World Footballer of the year if you're anything but world-class. It's not a popularity contest.

Thankyou! Some sense! I thought I was going bonkers. He came second in the World Footballer of the year award, not just shortlisted.

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:45

Also, about the box-to-box thing, he covers 10-12 Miles in those 90 minutes, you have to be covering alot of grass for that amount of miles.

by JKLever Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:47

Its only personal opinion though LLL.

He not a crap player by any imagination, I personally think he falls well short of 'world class'

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:49

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Thankyou! Some sense! I thought I was going bonkers. He came second in the World Footballer of the year award, not just shortlisted.

Yeah. Usually should be the same anyway - Euro & World. It's where it's at.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:53

As the kids would say - Trudat!

The reason I like Lampard is because he's really worked hard to shed the "fat Frank" tag he acquired at West Ham by becoming the best player he can possibly be and in the process becoming one of the fittest (feck of Lever), most consistent and best midfielders in the world.

He's also a damn sight more intelligent thatn your average footballer. I read somewhere that he got an A in GCSE Latin and was planning a career in law before football took over.

All in all, he's a good egg. Nay, a world class good egg. In the same class as players like Bryan Robson (and that's a pretty high accolade).

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:54

Captain Marvel.... over-rated.

by JKLever Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:55

Slower than a Richard Logan slower ball though

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:56

JKLever wrote:Its only personal opinion though LLL.

He not a crap player by any imagination, I personally think he falls well short of 'world class'

It's not just about personal opinion though. You've got to back it up with some fact. Otherwise I could say that Zico was crap. It's my personal opinion. It would make absolutely no sense because there is no evidence to substantiate it.

Zico is crap. Fire is cold. Dogs are really cats. All personal opinions. All nonsensical.

by Gary 111 Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:57

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:He scores loads of deflections. No. Of his 96 goals for Chelsea, 6 have been deflections.

Bull-sh!t !!!!!!!

by JKLever Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:58

Ok.

Technically he's ok, but nothing special. Not particularly fast.
And an ok passer of the ball.

Good player, but not world class.

My opinion.

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:58

How in the arching fork do you pull out a stat like Lamps has only had 6/96 deflected goals. Ridiculous.

by Gary 111 Wed 19 Sep 2007, 13:59

Batfink Begins wrote:Also, about the box-to-box thing, he covers 10-12 Miles in those 90 minutes, you have to be covering alot of grass for that amount of miles.

Typical English, blood and guts run up and down and hoof it when you get in sight of goal. Every promising move in 2006 was ended by Lampard hoofing it into the stand with 3 or 4 players waiting in a better position to receive a pass.

Strange how we get a midfielder prepared to play a considered game and do the simple things and suddenly England look like a team again.

by doremi Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:00

Batfink Begins wrote:How in the arching fork do you pull out a stat like Lamps has only had 6/96 deflected goals. Ridiculous.

I won't be too surprised if he makes notes about every minute Lampard spends on the field.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:02

Wikipedia - Lampard has been accused of scoring goals from deflections. However, a report from The Guardian newspaper shows that only six of his goals (6.7%) for Chelsea have been scored in that way.[17] As Martin Samuel of the Times sarcastically put it: "what a lucky boy he must be: 83 deflections since August 2003"[18]

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:03

JKLever wrote:Ok.

Technically he's ok, but nothing special. Not particularly fast.
And an ok passer of the ball.

Good player, but not world class.

My opinion.

Yet still manages to be one of the best midfielders in the world season in, season out with all those faults. Imagine what he'd be like if he was better in those areas!

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:04

Gary 111 wrote:

Typical English, blood and guts run up and down and hoof it when you get in sight of goal. Every promising move in 2006 was ended by Lampard hoofing it into the stand with 3 or 4 players waiting in a better position to receive a pass.

Strange how we get a midfielder prepared to play a considered game and do the simple things and suddenly England look like a team again.

Utter mouth-jizm. As I said, the balls changed, he got worse. Fact of the matter is, he knocked in plenty for us beforehand and was therefore granted the license to shoot.

Bar Owen, our positioning was so w@nk there weren't many or any options.

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:06

Ahh... you get your opinions from Wiki. What do you think to Pat Fish? I loathe him.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:06

Gary 111 wrote:
Batfink Begins wrote:Also, about the box-to-box thing, he covers 10-12 Miles in those 90 minutes, you have to be covering alot of grass for that amount of miles.

Typical English, blood and guts run up and down and hoof it when you get in sight of goal. Every promising move in 2006 was ended by Lampard hoofing it into the stand with 3 or 4 players waiting in a better position to receive a pass.

Strange how we get a midfielder prepared to play a considered game and do the simple things and suddenly England look like a team again.

Absolute gash. Like I said. Without Lampard's goals, we wouldn't have qualified. Blood and guts my arse. I don't think you watch him much. He's an excellent passer. He's the closest thing to Kaka England have. Less pace but more goals.

by Gary 111 Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:07

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Wikipedia - Lampard has been accused of scoring goals from deflections. However, a report from The Guardian newspaper shows that only six of his goals (6.7%) for Chelsea have been scored in that way.[17] As Martin Samuel of the Times sarcastically put it: "what a lucky boy he must be: 83 deflections since August 2003"[18]

Bloody hell! Quoting wikipedia for facts is pretty sketchy in the first place, when they're citing the guardian website for that you know you're in trouble!

And if that isn't bad enough its already a year out of date.

Do they have anything on there on who had most shots in the World Cup, and another of the leading goalscorers in the same tournament?

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:07

Batfink Begins wrote:Ahh... you get your opinions from Wiki. What do you think to Pat Fish? I loathe him.

No. I got stats from wiki. And those were from Guardian and Times articles.

by Brass Monkey Wed 19 Sep 2007, 14:09

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:No. I got stats from wiki. And those were from Guardian and Times articles.

Well, what do you think to Pat Fish?

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