Born and Bred. Does it matter?

I nearly wrote bread . . .

Carrying on from a comment on the county thread about there being three South Africans in the Somerset team . . .

Does it matter to you that not many of your team were actually born in your county/region/state/whatever? The current Somerset team only has two proper (to be said in a west country accent) members and it does irk me a little. Seriously, should there be a quota?

It falls into 2 categories

1. Those that come here after the age of 20 to qualify

I don't care if they've done the time in this country and have an affinity for it.

Lamb & Smith settled here. As did Hick.

I don't however like the Pattinsons & McCagues.

2. Those who were children when they came here such as Strauss (6) & Prior (13) - they're English to me. As in fact they are.

Only arsemunching Australians would claim they're Saffers in a points scoring arsemuncher contest.

Yes, I agree about players like Strauss and Prior fitting in fine, but would you still like to see at least a certain amount of pure-breds in your team? I would but I feel it's wrong to want that.

Whats 'pure-bred' though? I think you get very close to going down the line of Nazi science when people talk about that.

I mean, KP has more English blood in him than Andrew Symonds has Aussie blood in him. See? It's not that easy is it.

Ideally for me, born in the county and at least schooled there. Maybe they went away for a bit, but came back and stayed loyal.

So, we could have 6 local lads and a mixture of others, those with SA/Aus/Ind families but brought up in England and accepted. Looking at today's Somerset team, I felt a bit sad. Too many incommers. I don't remember county teams being quite so cosmopolitan in the old days. But I'm not just talking about foreigners from other countries.

Do you have a Charlie Chaplan moustache and a funny walk?

JKLever wrote:
Only arsemunching Australians would claim they're Saffers in a points scoring arsemuncher contest.

Mudge has never claimed they were Saffers

If they come over here in their teens or early 20s with a desire to play for England - fine!

Some old hack who's been shown the door elsewhere can fork off

Some old hack who's been shown the door elsewhere can fork off

Cool! The Ashes to become a contest against a pub team from Cheshire.

It can't be a coincidence that the first class comp that has provided the strongest team over most of the period where cricket has been basically fully professional has been one with the fewest teams and the fewest imports.

Demelza wrote:I nearly wrote bread . . .

Carrying on from a comment on the county thread about there being three South Africans in the Somerset team . . .

Does it matter to you that not many of your team were actually born in your county/region/state/whatever? The current Somerset team only has two proper (to be said in a west country accent) members and it does irk me a little. Seriously, should there be a quota?

Didn't you only recently move to the west country yourself, to get away from the chavs?

those with SA/Aus/Ind families but brought up in England and accepted

What if they aren't 'accepted'?

And why only Indian, what about others Asians and those with a Caribbean background or even Poles etc? And people call Yorkies racist....

tac wrote:

Demelza wrote:I nearly wrote bread . . .

Carrying on from a comment on the county thread about there being three South Africans in the Somerset team . . .

Does it matter to you that not many of your team were actually born in your county/region/state/whatever? The current Somerset team only has two proper (to be said in a west country accent) members and it does irk me a little. Seriously, should there be a quota?

Didn't you only recently move to the west country yourself, to get away from the chavs?

The chavs moved her out because she was lowering the tone of Chavdon

eowyn wrote:And people call Yorkies racist....

Wouldn't have anything to do with it being true, would it?

Yes, Zatty, I'm actually fully paid up member of the BNP.

Infact you're very right, Zatty. Of the main 12 of our usual 1st XI squad, four were born outside of Britain (SA and Pak) and of the other eight, seven are Yorkie born and bred and one (Vaughan...) is Lancie born but Yorkie bred. We perfectly fit, Dem's description.

Anthony McGrath CAPTAIN Born:October 6, 1975. Bradford

Jacobus (Jacques) Andries Rudolph VICE-CAPTAIN Born:May 4, 1981. Springs, Transvaal

Timothy Thomas Bresnan Born:February 28, 1985. Pontefract

Gerard Louis Brophy Born:November 26, 1975. Welkom, South Africa

Andrew William GaleBorn:November 28, 1983. Dewsbury

Matthew James Hoggard MBE Born:December 31, 1976. Leeds

Gideon (Deon) Jacobus Kruis Born:May 9, 1974. Pretoria

Rana Naved-ul-Hasan Born:February 28, 1978. Sheikhupara, Punjab

Adil Usman Rashid Born:February 17, 1988. Bradford

Joseph John Sayers Born:November 5, 1983. Leeds

Michael Paul Vaughan OBE Born:October 29, 1974. Eccles, Manchester

Craig White Born:December 16, 1969. Morley

eowyn wrote:Infact you're very right, Zatty. Of the main 12 of our usual 1st XI, four were born outside of Britain (SA and Pak) and of the other seven, six are Yorkie born and bred and one (Vaughan...) is Lancie born but Yorkie bred. We perfectly fit, Dem's description.

Anthony McGrath CAPTAIN Born:October 6, 1975. Bradford

Jacobus (Jacques) Andries Rudolph VICE-CAPTAIN Born:May 4, 1981. Springs, Transvaal

Timothy Thomas Bresnan Born:February 28, 1985. Pontefract

Gerard Louis Brophy Born:November 26, 1975. Welkom, South Africa

Andrew William GaleBorn:November 28, 1983. Dewsbury

Matthew James Hoggard MBE Born:December 31, 1976. Leeds

Gideon (Deon) Jacobus Kruis Born:May 9, 1974. Pretoria

Rana Naved-ul-Hasan Born:February 28, 1978. Sheikhupara, Punjab

Adil Usman Rashid Born:February 17, 1988. Bradford

Joseph John Sayers Born:November 5, 1983. Leeds

Michael Paul Vaughan OBE Born:October 29, 1974. Eccles, Manchester

Craig White Born:December 16, 1969. Morley

Nice town

But I'm not just talking about foreigners from other countries.

Where else do foreigners come from .... FFS.

Daftest f**king thread I've ever come across.

PS. Will make an exception with Tykes and Jocks though ... we don't want no Tykes nor Jockies littering our 'pure-breed' cricketers darn here in the Saaaf .... do we Ange

Merlin wrote:

But I'm not just talking about foreigners from other countries.

Where else do foreigners come from .... FFS.

Daftest f**king thread I've ever come across.

PS. Will make an exception with Tykes and Jocks though ... we don't want no Tykes nor Jockies littering our 'pure-breed' cricketers darn here in the Saaaf .... do we Ange

Hang about merls, what about the dozens of unanswered threads that I've written.... you can't be serious...

Fair call Smerky ... aye, a fair call !

If tha stays darn the'er, Merls, A'll stay oop he'er. No muddin' o'ft pure bloods the'en.

DJ_Smerk wrote:

Merlin wrote:

But I'm not just talking about foreigners from other countries.

Where else do foreigners come from .... FFS.

Daftest f**king thread I've ever come across.

PS. Will make an exception with Tykes and Jocks though ... we don't want no Tykes nor Jockies littering our 'pure-breed' cricketers darn here in the Saaaf .... do we Ange

Hang about merls, what about the dozens of unanswered threads that I've written.... you can't be serious...

Smerky

Apparently your shit threads aren't shit enough to be the shittest threads even though they are shit

embee wrote:

DJ_Smerk wrote:

Merlin wrote:

But I'm not just talking about foreigners from other countries.

Where else do foreigners come from .... FFS.

Daftest f**king thread I've ever come across.

PS. Will make an exception with Tykes and Jocks though ... we don't want no Tykes nor Jockies littering our 'pure-breed' cricketers darn here in the Saaaf .... do we Ange

Hang about merls, what about the dozens of unanswered threads that I've written.... you can't be serious...

Smerky

Apparently your shit threads aren't shit enough to be the shittest threads even though they are shit

Aye thats what I expected.

eowyn wrote:If tha stays darn the'er, Merls, A'll stay oop he'er. No muddin' o'ft pure bloods the'en.

Damn and blast .... shot meself in the foot there Ange ... an opportunity missed to blend our cultural differences and get that blood really muddied ....
Okay, here's a compromise .... Esso station on the M1, Watford junction ... that's halfway innit?

embee wrote:

DJ_Smerk wrote:

Merlin wrote:

But I'm not just talking about foreigners from other countries.

Where else do foreigners come from .... FFS.

Daftest f**king thread I've ever come across.

PS. Will make an exception with Tykes and Jocks though ... we don't want no Tykes nor Jockies littering our 'pure-breed' cricketers darn here in the Saaaf .... do we Ange

Hang about merls, what about the dozens of unanswered threads that I've written.... you can't be serious...

Smerky

Apparently your shit threads aren't shit enough to be the shittest threads even though they are shit

At this stage might I nominate Red. Or would that be sinking too low..