Potential

Ok, I'm a bit tossered as I'm on holiday right now, but seriously this forum has so much potential. It's been an active community for many a year, with most talk being in the light-hearted off topic banter form, general down heated discussions and even talk about cricket from time to time.

THERE IS NO F*CKING REASON WHATSOEVER WHY THIS PLACE CAN'T BE THE BEST PLACE TO TALK ABOUT CRICKET ON THE WEB!

YES. Otherwise intelligent people occasionally say stupid things in the heat of an argument.

YES. Arguments can happen between otherwise decent people over trivial subjects.

BUT, and this is the big one, there are a massive bunch of people on here (by FAR the majority) who just want to post on a light hearted cricket forum, about cricket with a bit of friendly banter thrown in.

THE MAJORITY of people do not want to come to a forum infested by WUMs and sad acts who just want to get a rise out of people they see to be vulnerable. The majority of people on this forum want good sensible debate, with bragging rights and a bit of fun thrown in.

What we don't want is people who come here to SPECIFICALLY look for arguments, look for easy targets and then enjoy the rise they get out of these people.

Dello, I'm not asking you to go banning people like the Terminator (though in fairness, he was more the murdering type anyway , so probs best to stick off his philosophies altogether). But this forum really does have a huge amount of intelligent posters not looking for fights every night who just want to debate about cricket, and occasionally debate other sports,films, whatever.

The liberal approach is great, but I do think that some groud rules should be applied and upheld or else or we are going to end up with is an exacerbated form of the forum that we all currently frequent.

This may be one of those times when I wake up tomorrow thinking "I wrote something silly again on FB", but I'm not that pissed and I actually think I'm talking some sense this time.

Just to finish, I know I'm not perfect. I recently argued with Taipan on his knowledge of football after a comment he made pissed me off, but I didn't take it further. Other posters just seem incapable of letting their grudges go.

Vilks has been drinking again!

Agree with what you're saying though.

One of your more cogent beered up rants.

EDIT : Not sure Dello really wants to be spending his time moderating other people's bollox, however, and nor should he have to. He set up this place as a bolt hole for us all to scurry to when C4 disappeared up its backside. I think he hoped it would largely moderate itself, and for a long time it seems to me, it did just that. It would be a shame if a minority of childish fools spoilt it for the rest of us.

This wasn't a slant on dello at all, he's one of my favourite people on this fu*ker. I just hate all the unecessary bullshit.

AND YEAH YEAH, I'M SURE SOME SORT OF ANALYST HAS SOME SHIT ABOUT ME.

Well whatever, what the f*ck, I'm not perfect, but I'm just a person, but I'm not a person who goes looking for trouble, if it finds me, then so be it.

I'm agreeing with you, soft lad!

Go and sleep it off and dream of the wonderful season Billy Davies is going to give you in a few months.

I agree Vilks ...Ban India

....and if your not down with that, we've got TWO WORDS FOR YA......

This place seemingly every few months goes through a 'what about if we did this...?' stage, which a lot of people then say 'yeah, that's a good idea' to. Which in the end amounts to fog nailed to a wall in terms of nett difference.

I once suggested that there should be two sections to FB, a cricket section, and an off-topic section. (Then again, I once also suggested that Dello should do something anatomically impossible, so I may not be the best source of ideas.) I still reckon that might be a way to go. And would cause a lot less friction than moderation can and would.

I can understand Jay's reluctance to moderate, he wouldn't be able to do it on his own, and I don't know how many other forumers would be willing to act, or be reliable, in a role of moderator, because it's hard to moderate fairly something that you contribute to.

It's like pushing a reset button , Zat

We start going a bit stupid and then we settle down

(In reference to the Community angle) Maybe the forum should be designed like a council estate/block of flats. We're all a bit grimey with the odd nugget of intelligence thrown in.

Or make the forum in the structure of an actual cricket ground.


The Pitch= On the pitch we discuss cricket and nothing else
The Lockerroom= Banter and debate on non-cricketing issues can take place
The Ice Bath= 1 on 1 conversations (or a fancy PMing)
The Reception= JD, Rikki Clarke and Richie Benaud greet you at the door
The Nets= Introduce yourself to the other team players
The Honours Board = Forum Gold Section (tbc)


So for example, when your on the front homepage (or at reception) you can see where the other forummers are.


What's this? Taipan and Merlin are in the ice bath?

There's some wild banter between Tac and Batman in the Lockerroom.

Ahhh, Augustus, BBB and Holcs are discussing Matt Prior on the pitch!

I hoenstly don't think moderating would be a hard job.

The line between "banter" and "being a sub human asshole intent on bringing everything in their knowledge to belittle somoene on an internet forum" is fairly obvious in my opinion.

Moderating this forum WITHIN REASON. Would cause it to flourish in my opinion.


A ****** nice fry up would also be great tomorrow in my opopnion.

Fry ups are marvellous. Truly a wonder. I may have one to celebrate my first exam going well/console myself after my first exam went badly for lunch tomorrow

embee wrote:It's like pushing a reset button , Zat

We start going a bit stupid and then we settle down

we just stumble from one ashes series to the next. Everything in between is just filler to make sure the forum still works

G.Wood wrote:

embee wrote:It's like pushing a reset button , Zat

We start going a bit stupid and then we settle down

we just stumble from one ashes series to the next. Everything in between is just filler to make sure the forum still works

Sage. Life is the Ashes. The rest is just detail.

The post count has been in decline these last couple of months. It should pick up around July when some more meaningful cricket is played.

For sheer volume of posts, nothing has ever come close to the 2005 Ashes when we were still on C4. At times, there was 30 people forumming at the same time.

Should take out a boundary ad during one of the Tests...

two things that would dramatically improve this forum (and have already been suggested above)

1. seperate cricket and non-cricket sub-forums
2. moderation. this does not have to be for every post or be very time-consuming, but can have three strikes and you're out policy. first time a warning, second time brigging and third banning. its enough to keep most people within the limits of decency. the limits can be fairly well laid out (personal abuse, hounding a forumer, massive disruption of threads, etc)

zero moderation on the net is asking for trouble as you just need 2-3 people to spoil the forum for dozens. whether dello can be bothered with this or can give moderation powers to people he thinks are fair-minded is up to him

i like the suggestion about separate areas in the Forum...eg there is already an IPL section for T20heads...however I think it an unreasonable ask on Dello to moderate the place.

most folk here are pretty reasonable most of the time and enjoy arguing the toss mainly about cricket...maybe some of us (me included) need to be more reasonable more of the time and be aware that different folk have different sensitivities and some softer targets than others...personally this means I will cut back on teasing soft targets eg Skully

horace wrote:i like the suggestion about separate areas in the Forum...eg there is already an IPL section for T20heads...however I think it an unreasonable ask on Dello to moderate the place.

most folk here are pretty reasonable most of the time and enjoy arguing the toss mainly about cricket...maybe some of us (me included) need to be more reasonable more of the time and be aware that different folk have different sensitivities and some softer targets than others...personally this means I will cut back on teasing soft targets eg Skully

Okay Horrie, I'll leave you alone.

derivative joke taips!!

Here's another.

get farked Horrie

prefer 6 asterisks myself!...but thanx for the advice anyway

Zat wrote:This place seemingly every few months goes through a 'what about if we did this...?' stage, which a lot of people then say 'yeah, that's a good idea' to. Which in the end amounts to fog nailed to a wall in terms of nett difference.

I once suggested that there should be two sections to FB, a cricket section, and an off-topic section. (Then again, I once also suggested that Dello should do something anatomically impossible, so I may not be the best source of ideas.) I still reckon that might be a way to go. And would cause a lot less friction than moderation can and would.

I can understand Jay's reluctance to moderate, he wouldn't be able to do it on his own, and I don't know how many other forumers would be willing to act, or be reliable, in a role of moderator, because it's hard to moderate fairly something that you contribute to.

As a newbie I'll add my two cents' worth - and I know, it's not my place, I have no right to an opinion, what would I know...blah blah.

I totally agree with you zat about an off-topic area. It's here anyway, unofficially. We have music, politics, other sports, personal news, current affairs and horrrie's health. In between the ACTION, these are great fillers and ppl get to know about other ppl, (in a healthy way!!)

While some talk about this forum not being part of our real lives, that's not quite right. It's a valid form of entertainment, like all the other entertainments in our lives; and we spend many happy hours reading, posting and enjoying - hence the word, pastime. (Well I really don't know where that word originated, but WTH.)

Anyhoo, does anyone know what happens to children who hear their parents arguing continually??? Apparently it changes the children's perception of themselves and lowers their self-esteem. As a newbie, I'm a child here, so stop bloody screwing with me mind, all you bloody argumentative parents, or I'll end up with a complex.

I'll be waiting for retribution behind the couch, with me helmet on and me Grey Nick in me hand.
And I have a vicious labrador, who wears a tartan collar.

footwork wrote:

Zat wrote:This place seemingly every few months goes through a 'what about if we did this...?' stage, which a lot of people then say 'yeah, that's a good idea' to. Which in the end amounts to fog nailed to a wall in terms of nett difference.

I once suggested that there should be two sections to FB, a cricket section, and an off-topic section. (Then again, I once also suggested that Dello should do something anatomically impossible, so I may not be the best source of ideas.) I still reckon that might be a way to go. And would cause a lot less friction than moderation can and would.

I can understand Jay's reluctance to moderate, he wouldn't be able to do it on his own, and I don't know how many other forumers would be willing to act, or be reliable, in a role of moderator, because it's hard to moderate fairly something that you contribute to.

As a newbie I'll add my two cents' worth - and I know, it's not my place, I have no right to an opinion, what would I know...blah blah.

The whole point is that everyone is entitled to an equal opinion. I prefer that to the lurkers who say SFA