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Post by Merlin Tue 19 May 2009, 10:24

What's this little game being played by the two oiks here?

"You show me yours and I'll show you mine" ...

This ought to be fun ...

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Post by Red Tue 19 May 2009, 10:25

taipan wrote:And if you can prove all the bowlers averaged over 30, I'll concede.

I said the best bowler averaged over thirty. You contest this by saying that Kallis was the best because he averaged marginally under thirty but he took five fewer wickets. The best bowler is not always the one with the best average. Sometimes someone can lead the averages with very few wickets.

Prove that Kallis was the best bowler!
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Post by JKLever Tue 19 May 2009, 10:26

taipan wrote:
He was probably the best Very Happy

If Flintoff or Harmison had his stats there would a few poms beating off on here.

Since 2004 Flintoff has taken 155 wickets @ 27, Kallis hasn't been near that - I think Freddiekins is quite happy with how it's gone since his stats read - batting average 18 & bowling average 50 Wink
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Post by taipan Tue 19 May 2009, 10:30

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
He was probably the best Very Happy

If Flintoff or Harmison had his stats there would a few poms beating off on here.

Since 2004 Flintoff has taken 155 wickets @ 27, Kallis hasn't been near that - I think Freddiekins is quite happy with how it's gone since his stats read - batting average 18 & bowling average 50 Wink

Ah, the selective stats defence.
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Post by Demelza Tue 19 May 2009, 10:30

The battle of the white bikinis.
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Post by Red Tue 19 May 2009, 10:31

taipan wrote:
Red wrote:But Taipan the big Morkel took 15 wickets at over 30 and he was one of their bona fide bowlers. Kallis is an all-rounder. In any case it doesn't change the fact that despite all the hype about how it would be a bowlers' series, that nobody really stood out.

The point is that you were farking wrong as usual. For once in your benighted existence, stand up and admit it.

Go back to the original statement, best bowler on both sides averaged over thirty, so not technically wrong unless you can objectively prove who was best as stated since that post.
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Post by JKLever Tue 19 May 2009, 10:36

taipan wrote:
JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
He was probably the best Very Happy

If Flintoff or Harmison had his stats there would a few poms beating off on here.

Since 2004 Flintoff has taken 155 wickets @ 27, Kallis hasn't been near that - I think Freddiekins is quite happy with how it's gone since his stats read - batting average 18 & bowling average 50 Wink

Ah, the selective stats defence.

Or called, 'living in the now' - you'd have to be a bit of a cock to think Flintoff is the same bowler now that he was 7 years ago. Similarly Kallis is nowhere near the bowler he was 7 years ago. He's a bit of a Bangla/Zim bully in truth. Taking his wickets @ 33,42 & 71 respectively against Aus,Eng & Ind. Flintoff in the meantime has taken close to 100 wickets at 29 v India,Aus & SA
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Post by taipan Tue 19 May 2009, 10:38

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
He was probably the best Very Happy

If Flintoff or Harmison had his stats there would a few poms beating off on here.

Since 2004 Flintoff has taken 155 wickets @ 27, Kallis hasn't been near that - I think Freddiekins is quite happy with how it's gone since his stats read - batting average 18 & bowling average 50 Wink

Ah, the selective stats defence.

Or called, 'living in the now' - you'd have to be a bit of a cock to think Flintoff is the same bowler now that he was 7 years ago. Similarly Kallis is nowhere near the bowler he was 7 years ago. He's a bit of a Bangla/Zim bully in truth. Taking his wickets @ 33,42 & 71 respectively against Aus,Eng & Ind. Flintoff in the meantime has taken close to 100 wickets at 29 v India,Aus & SA

True, he was actually bowling 7 years ago.
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Post by Merlin Tue 19 May 2009, 10:39

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:

Ah, the selective stats defence.

Or called, 'living in the now' - you'd have to be a bit of a cock to think

He is ... and no, he doesn't think.
'Nuff said.

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Post by JKLever Tue 19 May 2009, 10:43

taipan wrote:
True, he was actually bowling 7 years ago.

Big lumbering fast bowler in getting an injury shocker. Rolling Eyes
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Post by taipan Tue 19 May 2009, 10:50

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
True, he was actually bowling 7 years ago.

Big lumbering fast bowler in getting an injury shocker. Rolling Eyes

Come off it Lever. he is fast becoming England's figjam
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Post by JKLever Tue 19 May 2009, 10:53

taipan wrote:
JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
True, he was actually bowling 7 years ago.

Big lumbering fast bowler in getting an injury shocker. Rolling Eyes

Come off it Lever. he is fast becoming England's figjam

Yup the big man is getting lots of different injuries the last 18 months, no doubt. But he still wouldn't want Kallis' figures for the past 7 years, he's been a different class as a bowler in that time.
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