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Post by taipan Fri 22 May 2009, 13:28

Maybe it's time for a WPL.

4 conferences of 6 teams.
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Post by jim rich Fri 22 May 2009, 13:39

I doubt the IPL would give up its front runner position and therein lies the problem. No other country has the market potential to provide the funds that would make it attractive for international players to participate in PLs other than the IPL. For the sake of the cricketers, its best to leave it as a monopoly. Although any monopoly is a scourge.

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Post by taipan Fri 22 May 2009, 13:44

jim rich wrote:I doubt the IPL would give up its front runner position and therein lies the problem. No other country has the market potential to provide the funds that would make it attractive for international players to participate in PLs other than the IPL. For the sake of the cricketers, its best to leave it as a monopoly. Although any monopoly is a scourge.

That's the problem. The BCCI wouldn't act in the best interests of the game.
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Post by Chivalry Augustus Fri 22 May 2009, 13:55

JKLever wrote:
jim rich wrote:
Why does the ECB want to emulate it then, JKL?

Greed, again. I'll say the same about them the minute any 'EPL' starts affecting test cricket.

There simply needs to be an edict from the IPL which would make them more moral in my view and that is that whilst a country is involved in a test series, none of its players contracted to their boards can play IPL.

Would cut out the chasing of cash over test caps.

I disagree. The IPL is only a domestic competition. More than anything it's the ICC's obsession with bringing Twenty20 to the international game that has damaged Test Cricket. If it weren't for this Twenty20 WC, everyone could have played in the IPL without worry because the season would have started at the right time. As Nick Knight was saying the other day, Twenty20 just isn't an international game. Having lots of Twenty20 tournaments all over the place isn't going to affect world-cricket unless the ICC keep filling up the calendar with more and more rubbishy matches. It will affect our FC game to an extent, but when you see shit like Gloucester signing up Stuart Clark, you wonder why they don't compress the FC game to twelve teams, two divisions, 6 less matches - job's a good 'un.

The main problem is too much cricket all over the place, PARTICULARLY IN ENGLAND.
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Post by JKLever Fri 22 May 2009, 14:06

Chivalry Augustus wrote:

I disagree. The IPL is only a domestic competition.

But its also a domestic competition that infringes on test cricket internationally. So IPL is hardly 'only' a domestic comp. And it is already affecting cricket world wide, Bravo chasing the cash cow in SA rather than represent his country at the highest level...

I would agree however that it shouldn't be played at international level.
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Post by jim rich Fri 22 May 2009, 14:21

The BCCI wouldn't act in the best interests of the game

That's a pretty biased statement to make. Not only because it's generalised but it is also void of any tangible proof. Its feeding many international cricketers besides marketing the game pretty well in its sphere of influence.

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Post by JKLever Fri 22 May 2009, 14:28

jim rich wrote:
The BCCI wouldn't act in the best interests of the game

That's a pretty biased statement to make. Not only because it's generalised but it is also void of any tangible proof. Its feeding many international cricketers besides marketing the game pretty well in its sphere of influence.

Wake up and smell the coffee Jim!
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Post by jim rich Fri 22 May 2009, 14:32

I would agree however that it shouldn't be played at international level.
I don't think that's the solution, JKL. Any tournament thats played at the club level will seek recognition at the state level. You see the tendencies right now with every international tour being studded with one or two T20 matches. Thats the name of any competitive game. People want to know who's the best country in the world.

IMO, the T20 WC is fine if played with a limited amount of teams which avoids overkill. Unfortunately the ICC can't pass an opportunity to enrich itself. I suspect a window for the IPL will never be found with the ICC perpetually finding new ways to disrupt the flow of the world cricketing calendar.

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Post by jim rich Fri 22 May 2009, 14:36

JKLever wrote:
jim rich wrote:
The BCCI wouldn't act in the best interests of the game

That's a pretty biased statement to make. Not only because it's generalised but it is also void of any tangible proof. Its feeding many international cricketers besides marketing the game pretty well in its sphere of influence.

Wake up and smell the coffee Jim!

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Post by The One Fri 22 May 2009, 15:10

JKLever wrote:But its also a domestic competition that infringes on test cricket internationally. So IPL is hardly 'only' a domestic comp. And it is already affecting cricket world wide, Bravo chasing the cash cow in SA rather than represent his country at the highest level...

I would agree however that it shouldn't be played at international level.

create a window - problem solved. i cant see why this is so hard to grasp

bravo was dropped by the windies board iirc. he cant play in the ipl without board permission. no reason to pick him in odis at the business end of the ipl and not the tests

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