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Shane loves John
Warne labels Buchanan English switch as boost to Aussie hopes
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Jim Morton
June 12, 2009 07:32pm
SHANE Warne has again let fire at John Buchanan, labelling his former coach's English switch as a massive boost to Australia's Ashes hopes.
Buchanan will start a short-term coaching assignment with England just before the five-Test series and will work with the English Lions who will oppose Australia in their final warm-up match.
It's unclear whether Buchanan, as a consultant, will divulge any inside information.
But Warne, who has never missed an opportunity to pillory the bookish coach, believes Australia have little to worry about.
"I think that's a great move because that means we've got more of a chance," Warne said.
"Hopefully Buck will be doing his stuff and he'll be working and doing all his things and hopefully overcomplicating things.
"I reckon it gives our chances a big boost and makes our blokes more hungry.
"Hopefully he gets all of them in a boot camp and Freddy (Andrew) Flintoff and (Kevin) Pietersen hurt their knees, that would be great."
Warne didn't go so far as fellow leg-spinner Stuart MacGill who said Buchanan's coaching cost Australia the 2005 Ashes in England, but felt it was the one time in his tenure his players didn't perform.
"That was the first time he was in a situation where we weren't playing as well as we would have liked and we were getting outplayed," he said.
Warne believes Australia deserve to start favourites for the Ashes, which starts in Cardiff on July 8, and labelled the world champions' early elimination from the World Twenty20 as a "blessing in disguise".
"I wish we were still in the Twenty20 ... but now you have to look at the positive out of it and the positive is our guys can prepare for the Ashes for the next couple of weeks," he said while participating in Cricket Australia's spin summit in Brisbane.
The former Test wicket-taking record holder put Australia's poor record in the shortened game down to a lack of exposure due to their packed international schedule.
"Ideally we'd like the international players to play more Twenty20 in our domestic Big Bash competition," said Warne, who finished with 708 wickets in 145 Tests.
"I don't think we actually understand the tactics of Twenty20 enough either. We didn't play a spinner in the first Twenty20 game (against the West Indies).
"You look at all the people doing well in Twenty20 cricket, spinners are doing really well."
Warne, a CA coaching ambassador, predicted off-spinner Nathan Hauritz would break the current trend of slow bowlers being tried and quickly discarded at Test level.
"Over the last couple of years we've tried a lot of different spinners and no one has really stamped their authority," he said.
"But I think I think (Hauritz) is going to play a big role. I think he's improved out of sight (and) he's bowling exceptionally well."
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Jim Morton
June 12, 2009 07:32pm
SHANE Warne has again let fire at John Buchanan, labelling his former coach's English switch as a massive boost to Australia's Ashes hopes.
Buchanan will start a short-term coaching assignment with England just before the five-Test series and will work with the English Lions who will oppose Australia in their final warm-up match.
It's unclear whether Buchanan, as a consultant, will divulge any inside information.
But Warne, who has never missed an opportunity to pillory the bookish coach, believes Australia have little to worry about.
"I think that's a great move because that means we've got more of a chance," Warne said.
"Hopefully Buck will be doing his stuff and he'll be working and doing all his things and hopefully overcomplicating things.
"I reckon it gives our chances a big boost and makes our blokes more hungry.
"Hopefully he gets all of them in a boot camp and Freddy (Andrew) Flintoff and (Kevin) Pietersen hurt their knees, that would be great."
Warne didn't go so far as fellow leg-spinner Stuart MacGill who said Buchanan's coaching cost Australia the 2005 Ashes in England, but felt it was the one time in his tenure his players didn't perform.
"That was the first time he was in a situation where we weren't playing as well as we would have liked and we were getting outplayed," he said.
Warne believes Australia deserve to start favourites for the Ashes, which starts in Cardiff on July 8, and labelled the world champions' early elimination from the World Twenty20 as a "blessing in disguise".
"I wish we were still in the Twenty20 ... but now you have to look at the positive out of it and the positive is our guys can prepare for the Ashes for the next couple of weeks," he said while participating in Cricket Australia's spin summit in Brisbane.
The former Test wicket-taking record holder put Australia's poor record in the shortened game down to a lack of exposure due to their packed international schedule.
"Ideally we'd like the international players to play more Twenty20 in our domestic Big Bash competition," said Warne, who finished with 708 wickets in 145 Tests.
"I don't think we actually understand the tactics of Twenty20 enough either. We didn't play a spinner in the first Twenty20 game (against the West Indies).
"You look at all the people doing well in Twenty20 cricket, spinners are doing really well."
Warne, a CA coaching ambassador, predicted off-spinner Nathan Hauritz would break the current trend of slow bowlers being tried and quickly discarded at Test level.
"Over the last couple of years we've tried a lot of different spinners and no one has really stamped their authority," he said.
"But I think I think (Hauritz) is going to play a big role. I think he's improved out of sight (and) he's bowling exceptionally well."
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I thought I'd crapped on about that earlier?
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He's got a point. Buchannan is crap.
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Bradman wrote:I thought I'd crapped on about that earlier?
You may have ...but i may be "doing a red"....
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doremi wrote:He's got a point. Buchannan is crap.
and Neilsen is better?!?!
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Wise man, that Shane Warne. Knows what he's talking about May even have made captain had he not fingered around with Bucky's arse. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand chinese proverbs aren't going to work in England. Hope he is shown the door before he does any great damage.
Fark, he's like a leaking tap when it gets to the press. But, of course, he's got his successes with the KKR to fall back upon. I hear he can kiss his big bucks IPL contract good bye now.
Fark, he's like a leaking tap when it gets to the press. But, of course, he's got his successes with the KKR to fall back upon. I hear he can kiss his big bucks IPL contract good bye now.
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There's no feud like an old feud.
Of course, he IS basically right ...
Of course, he IS basically right ...
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Point me to the name of a cricket coach with a better record.
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Point me to the name of a cricket coach who had a better group of players to work with.
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Henry wrote:Point me to the name of a cricket coach who had a better group of players to work with.
You mean when he was working with his club side, the state side or the national side, shithead!
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Well, he coached a shit county team (Middlesex) and was promptly sacked because of his coaching methods. He also managed to make on paper the best IPL side the worst IPL side results wise this season.
McGrath, Gilchrist, Warney (with the help of some fogs) and co, could survive his boot camps and poetry sessions, forget it all an hour later, and go out and display their immense talent. However some mere mortals actually need COACHING. The one time the great Aussie team of the early to mid 00's needed some actual cricket coaching (2005 ashes) he didn't have a clue.
McGrath, Gilchrist, Warney (with the help of some fogs) and co, could survive his boot camps and poetry sessions, forget it all an hour later, and go out and display their immense talent. However some mere mortals actually need COACHING. The one time the great Aussie team of the early to mid 00's needed some actual cricket coaching (2005 ashes) he didn't have a clue.
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WTF? Why does it come up as fogs even though i'm definitely using the 'a' key?
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hags
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Censorship, Trev.
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I blome toc fir thus uetroge
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Noice shot of the wee lass, MB. Is she a Pies supporter?
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wash your mouth out , ya SGDT
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Fixed it ...wearing her true colours ( and looking like a convict )
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I hope that was photoshopped. Children shouldn't be made to wear stuff that ghastly, bound to leave a scar.
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Henry wrote:Well, he coached a shit county team (Middlesex) and was promptly sacked because of his coaching methods. He also managed to make on paper the best IPL side the worst IPL side results wise this season.
McGrath, Gilchrist, Warney (with the help of some fogs) and co, could survive his boot camps and poetry sessions, forget it all an hour later, and go out and display their immense talent. However some mere mortals actually need COACHING. The one time the great Aussie team of the early to mid 00's needed some actual cricket coaching (2005 ashes) he didn't have a clue.
.... and your response to my original question bumboy?
I can easily point to instances where a great "team" failed to perform under a particular coach. Sport is littered with stories of how a potentially championship winning side "on paper" failed to achieve. Buchanan has the runs on the board. Once again, can to point to a cricket coach with a better record?
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Hehe, noice.embee wrote:Fixed it ...wearing her true colours ( and looking like a convict )
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