Re: The Ashes '16'

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:16

I wish they'd just forget about 2005...

by beamer Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:21

DJ_Smerk wrote:I wish they'd just forget about 2005...

Well, to be fair their obsession with the 12 MBE's has faded somewhat in the last few months.

Strauss - definite
Trescothick - retired from Tests
Vaughan - left out
Pietersen - definite
Bell - in squad
Flintoff - definite if fit
G.Jones - discarded
Giles - retired
Hoggard - discarded
Harmison - left out
S.Jones - injured
Collingwood - definite

So only four of them (including "17 runs" Colly) likely to feature in Cardiff, with Bell likely to play a part at some stage (probably a classy 60 not out in a lost cause after a first innings duck...)

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:25

You should put Colly in italics as he barely played in the 2005 series. This time round is where he might actually earn that MBE.

by beamer Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:33

DJ_Smerk wrote:You should put Colly in italics as he barely played in the 2005 series. This time round is where he might actually earn that MBE.

Yeah, Gary Pratt probably deserved one as much as he did... where's he these days?

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:36

I think if you get up Ponting's nose, then thats an automatic MBE.

Saying that, Harby and half the Indian Test team would have had one too...

by LeFromage Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:38

Gary Pratt was released by Durham in 2007.

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 20:11

Story

Bopara backs Vaughan and Harmison.

I found this quote quite interesting.

"Michael's a good friend of mine and it's not good to see your friends not in the squad but he's a fine player and I'm sure if he was given the opportunity tomorrow he would go out and do well," Bopara told PA.

Is it possible that Bopara will perform better at 3 if he knows that his place is not nailed down? Could he be hoping for Vaughan to find some form this season, increasing his incentive to play big knocks this summer to keep his place? He doesn't strike me as the sort of namby pamby guy who would back any old player. Slightly peculiar choice of words from Ravz.

by JKLever Mon 22 Jun 2009, 20:55

Just diplomacy.

Can't think of when they would have played together. SL perhaps?

by JKLever Mon 22 Jun 2009, 20:57

Dello wrote:I suppose they just want to be sure Onions is more than a minnow basher.

As opposed to Ryan 'NZ are my bitches' Sidebottom you mean? Wink

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 21:01

Australia and NZ are neighbours....maybe they'll react the same to Sid's swingers...

by beamer Mon 22 Jun 2009, 21:03

JKLever wrote:Just diplomacy.

Can't think of when they would have played together. SL perhaps?

I'm sure all new players in the squad have to swear an oath of allegiance to Vaughan and the Ashes Twelve before they're allowed to so much as carry drinks...

by Chivalry Augustus Mon 22 Jun 2009, 22:31

JKLever wrote:
Dello wrote:I suppose they just want to be sure Onions is more than a minnow basher.

As opposed to Ryan 'NZ are my bitches' Sidebottom you mean?

Of the guys who will probably bowl for England in t'Ashes, there's only one who can't have the 'WI/NZ are my bitches' thingummy in the middle of their name. Anderson averages 40 against non-minnows the last two years, Swann 40 (2 matches), Sidebottom 42, Broad 56.

The two guys with records better than Flintoff have both died a death; Tremlett and Hoggard.

by JKLever Mon 22 Jun 2009, 22:35

Fair point Gus. Therefore Onions really doesn't need the minnow basher test put before him...

by tac Mon 22 Jun 2009, 22:56

DJ_Smerk wrote:I wish they'd just forget about 2005...

Oh the irony

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:00

I wasn't on about the Aussies. The England management.

Suck it up big man.

by JKLever Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:03

tac wrote:
DJ_Smerk wrote:I wish they'd just forget about 2005...

Oh the irony

been given permission to forum tacman?

by tac Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:07

DJ_Smerk wrote:I wasn't on about the Aussies. The England management.

Suck it up big man.

That was the ironic part, dufus. The aussies have been telling you same for 4 years . . .

by tac Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:08

JKLever wrote:
tac wrote:
DJ_Smerk wrote:I wish they'd just forget about 2005...

Oh the irony

been given permission to forum tacman?

Not that far under the thumb yet, JKL, just the first symptoms of being qunt-struck . . . Very Happy

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:10

tac wrote:
DJ_Smerk wrote:I wasn't on about the Aussies. The England management.

Suck it up big man.

That was the ironic part, dufus. The aussies have been telling you same for 4 years . . .

I've been ignoring it for four years obviously...

by tac Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:12

DJ_Smerk wrote:
tac wrote:
DJ_Smerk wrote:I wasn't on about the Aussies. The England management.

Suck it up big man.

That was the ironic part, dufus. The aussies have been telling you same for 4 years . . .

I've been ignoring it for four years obviously...

Again, that's the ironic bit, smerfy . . . fark, you'll be going on about hearsay soon . . . Laughing

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:13

Let me get my dictionary...

by PeterCS Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:16

The Spice Girls are not bad for an up-and-coming band.

by DJ_Smerk Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:17

Hearsay didn't last long though.

by PeterCS Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:21

That's only a rumour.

by Big_Bad_Bob Mon 22 Jun 2009, 23:58

JKLever wrote:
England Lions v Australia at Worcester (July 1-4):
Ian Bell (captain, Warwickshire)
Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire)
Joe Denly (Kent)
Steven Davies (Worcestershire)
Steve Harmison (Durham)
Saj Mahmood (Lancashire)
Stephen Moore (Worcestershire)
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex)
Graham Onions (Durham)
Adil Rashid (Yorkshire)
Vikram Solanki (Worcestershire)

Forking hell, Vikram Slogdonki?

And Stephen Moore.

A South African with a 2009 Championship average of 12.50? Rolling Eyes

The Sidebottom scenario is a bizarre one indeed. It's almost as though they forgot to include him in either side having included him in the 16 man 'squad' . . .

. . . they wouldn't be that stupid would they? Ah. That'll be it then.

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