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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 17 Oct 2007, 21:40

Fact:

Rampers has increased his batting average by 32 runs per innings since moving across the Thames.

In all first-class matches his figures for Middlesex at Lord’s and Surrey at The Oval are:

Lord's: 80 matches, 133 innings, 19 not outs, 233 highest, 5959 runs, 52.2 average, 17 hundreds
The Oval : 41 matches, 66 innings, 9 not outs, 301* highest, 4806 runs, 84.31 average, 21 hundreds


Trivia:

How many people have matched Mark Ramprakash's achievement of averaging over 100 in first-class cricket in two separate seasons?
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:51

Well i'd have thought Bradman must have averaged over 100 quite often in a season considering his FC career average of over 95.

And Boycott definitely did it for an Australian season (i think it was 70/71) and I think i'm right in saying he averaged over 100 in an English summer season as well - on wickets considerably more testing than the Oval featherbeds of late.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:58

Before I tell you, do you want to hear the story about the capon?
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:01

No I f**king don't. If I see that capon i'll kick it up the @rse so hard the little f*cker will think that caponization is a f**king doddle. The tw@t.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:06

Yes, here we are:

Geoff Boycott (1970/71) = 100.12
and again in (1979) = 102.53
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:06

Cor. I didn't ask for all that. I just asked whether you wanted to hear the story about the capon.


Anyway, the answer is only one person. Geoff Boycott. He averaged 100.12 in 1971 and 102.53 in 1979.

Bradman, Martyn, Gooch and Bill Johnston have all done it once.

Ramps is the only player ever to do it in successive seasons.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:11

Depends if you put a limit on innings played, Damien Martyn averaged 104.67 in 2001 and 171 in 2003, but in 2003 he only played 2 matches.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:14

I've got a feeling Bradman did it loads of times, but I can't be bothered to check how many.

He definitely averaged 115.67 in 1938, and to pick a random season (1929/30) he averaged 113.29
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:15

Hush your mouth. Never argue with Bill Frindall.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:19

Why has "Bearders" got it so wrong then?

http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Players/0/492/f_Batting_by_Season.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tms/2007/10/ask_bearders_156.shtml
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 17 Oct 2007, 23:34

I guess he meant English seasons, although in the question he just says 'seasons'. I'm sure that Australian fans (and other countries) would insist that their seasons are just as valid as English ones.

Boycott did it in 1971 and 1979 now i've checked. In the Australian season of 1970/71 he only averaged a piffling 95.94.

That still leaves Damien Martyn in 2001 and 2003, I guess he hasn't counted 2003 because he only played 3 innings.
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Post by Basil Thu 18 Oct 2007, 00:27

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Before I tell you, do you want to hear the story about the capon?

You can shove your capon where the monkey stuffs his nuts!
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Post by JGK Thu 18 Oct 2007, 07:07

Gary 111 wrote:I guess he meant English seasons, although in the question he just says 'seasons'. I'm sure that Australian fans (and other countries) would insist that their seasons are just as valid as English ones.

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Especially as some of the run totals that Bradman (and others) scored in Australian seasons would have been more than all but a few batsmen in the current English would score.

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Post by JGK Thu 18 Oct 2007, 07:10

Hi.


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Post by G.Wood Thu 18 Oct 2007, 07:22

Basil wrote:
Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Before I tell you, do you want to hear the story about the capon?

You can shove your capon where the monkey stuffs his nuts!

Symonds has been very careful where he shoves them since the incident on the eve of the 05 ODI series
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Post by Zat Thu 18 Oct 2007, 08:15

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Why has "Bearders" got it so wrong then?

http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Players/0/492/f_Batting_by_Season.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tms/2007/10/ask_bearders_156.shtml
Like he never makes mistakes. Rolling Eyes

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Post by skully Sat 20 Oct 2007, 04:47

I think you'll find that Frindall omitted the fact that he put a 20 game per season qualification on that piece of trivia. DGB only had the 38 season where he played both 20 matches and averaged 100+.
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Post by Zat Sat 20 Oct 2007, 04:54

skully in sticking up for festive stats guru shocker.

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Post by skully Sun 21 Oct 2007, 02:48

Zat wrote:skully in sticking up for festive stats guru shocker.
Very Happy Actually, I looked at the links and it seemed rather obvious that there had to be a qualification because any stat-head worth his salt knows DGB averaged over 100 in a season on many occasions.
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